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re: “The Civil War settled it. Secession is unconstitutional.”
Posted on 11/23/18 at 8:08 pm to roadGator
Posted on 11/23/18 at 8:08 pm to roadGator
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You leftists hate that pledge.
I say it, on average, three times a month. I belong to groups that believe in the US of America, not Russia, Nazi Germany or the CSA.
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Posted on 11/23/18 at 8:11 pm to RollTide1987
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Because if a state like California were to secede, a massive chunk of the national economy would secede with it.
While true, I can’t help but imagine the amount of crazy new laws that would strangle their economy. Laws like “no trade with red states” or “50% corporate taxes and 75% taxes on the top 5%.” Pretty soon, they’d cripple themselves. Venezuela part deux.
Posted on 11/23/18 at 9:00 pm to baybeefeetz
Are there any rules against kicking a state out?
Posted on 11/23/18 at 9:05 pm to autauga
Nope.
Posted on 11/23/18 at 9:22 pm to Tchefuncte Tiger
“We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. — That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government,”
Posted on 11/23/18 at 9:56 pm to Roger Klarvin
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Correct, Texas v. White did
bullshite.
No Supreme Court stacked with Lincoln appointees was about to say that a war that cost 100s of thousands of lives, and the life if a president, was illegal.
This post was edited on 11/23/18 at 10:02 pm
Posted on 11/23/18 at 10:03 pm to baybeefeetz
There’s a fine line between secession and Balkanization.
I feel like we are seeing the large cities Balkanize and the rest of the nation hold out.
I feel like we are seeing the large cities Balkanize and the rest of the nation hold out.
Posted on 11/23/18 at 10:04 pm to baybeefeetz
If a state has the ability to do it and wants to constitutionality doesn't matter.
Gee, could have avoided WWII if we had just made bombing Pearl Harbor unconstitutional.
Gee, could have avoided WWII if we had just made bombing Pearl Harbor unconstitutional.
Posted on 11/23/18 at 10:15 pm to Jyrdis
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While true, I can’t help but imagine the amount of crazy new laws that would strangle their economy.
I was going to say that they are well on their way to destroying their economy.
The way it's going, it won't be that big of a loss one day.
Posted on 11/23/18 at 10:48 pm to baybeefeetz
It's not an easy topic. If secession was deemed allowed, after the Democrats seceded.... then slavery would probably still be alive and active, in their states.
Even though slavery itself wasn't the main trigger that set off the civil war, it can't be ignored.
Personally, I believe every state should get a vote. For example.. if the USA wants to get rid of California and kick it out .. all 50 states can cast their votes, that's 50 votes, if 26 states vote to get rid of California...then California will no longer be part of the USA. California will become its own third world country.
Even though slavery itself wasn't the main trigger that set off the civil war, it can't be ignored.
Personally, I believe every state should get a vote. For example.. if the USA wants to get rid of California and kick it out .. all 50 states can cast their votes, that's 50 votes, if 26 states vote to get rid of California...then California will no longer be part of the USA. California will become its own third world country.
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