re: The 3 Israelis boys murdered and Obama/Republicans?

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Deep down we all know the Arabs will never make peace with Israel

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Until they are all dead.

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The Palestinians deserve their own state as much as the Jewish people do.

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No such thing as "Palestinians", therefore, debatable at least.

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Obviously no brother Arab state , with all their oil money, will fund it. In the best of worlds, the deal needs to be Palestinian state on the West Bank and Gaza in return for a guarantee by all parties of Israel's security

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A guarantee by all of these states who not only have never recognized Israel's right to exist, but actively speak and act towards its destruction - and whose religion allows/encourages lying to infidels? Good luck with that agreement.

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Can you see Hamas et al laying down their arms and recognizing Israel?

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Never. Not in 100 years, at least, and I'll be long gone.

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Right wingers in Israel need to let Judea and Samaria go back to the Palestinians.

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Because trading land for peace has worked so well up to now.

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The kidnapping murder pushes the peace process back.

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Well, it was those teenagers' fault, after all, they were Israelis, you know?

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the deal needs to be Palestinian state on the West Bank and Gaza in return for a guarantee by all parties of Israel's security

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That's exactly what the 2002 Saudi Peace Plan was and all 22 Arabs states signed onto it.

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Can you see Hamas et al laying down their arms and recognizing Israel? Right wingers in Israel need to let Judea and Samaria go back to the Palestinians. Simplistic but ach side needs to recognize the needs and aspirations of the other.

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Can you imagine the current Likud/settler government ever agreeing to this?

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The kidnapping murder pushes the peace process back.

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The far more frequent murders of Palestinians don't help peace either, and well as the routine home demolitons, land confiscations and olive orchard desctruction.

The pragmatic, realistic Israelis realize that time is on the side of the Palestinians. More and more younger Palestinians are giving up on the idea of two states and are warming up to the idea of one state. Here's how former Prime Minister Ehud Olmert put it:

"We are approaching the point where more and more Palestinians will say: we have been won over. We agree with [National Union leader Avigdor] Liberman. There is no room for two states between the Jordan and the sea. All that we want is the right to vote. The day they do that, is the day we lose everything. Even when they carry out terror, it is very difficult for us to persuade the world of the justice of our cause. We see this on a daily basis. All the more so when there is only one demand: an equal right to vote."

However, the right-wingers in Israel seem to believe that the U.S. government will never abandon them the way it did the Afrikaners in South Africa, and that even if the Palestinains give up on the two-state solution and Israel becomes a naked apartheid state, AIPAC and its likeminded supporters on Capitol Hill can pressure the White House and Congress into protecting them from sanctions and diplomatic isolation for eternity.

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I would consider Isreal as the top suspect.

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And there it is - Jews responsible for all of the ills of the world and always pinning it on the poor, peace loving muslims.

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Well, it was those teenagers' fault, after all, they were Israelis, you know?

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Actually, any harm that comes to the child of a settler is al least partially the parents' fault, just as Al Qaeda members deserve blame for putting their kids in harms' way if they're attacked by an American drone. I feel sympathy for the kids, since they didn't chose their parents or upbringing, but if this had happened to adult settlers, I would have said good riddance.

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Well, that's a bad bet - in 2014 an alliance with the United States is worthless.

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The U.S. shouldn't have any permanent friends or permanent enemies, only interests. Do you agree?

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Because they were asking for it, right? Invaders and all...

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Yes, as you can see, I more or less equate Israeli settlers (violent, fundamentalist Jewish fanatics) with Al Qaeda (violent, fundamentalist Islamic fanatics).

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And there it is - Jews responsible for all of the ills of the world and always pinning it on the poor, peace loving muslims.

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Well, Israel is responsible for the illegal occupation of Palestine that is a given. If Israeli settlers weren't engaged in genocide and the ethnic cleansing of Palestinians events like this would not happen. (be it Palestinian terrorists responsible or the Terrorist government in Tel Aviv.)

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But why would anyone expect Israel to every give up all of these settlements? Answer, they never intended to. They reason for the settlements is painfully obvious - Israel has always wanted land more than peace. You cannot have a configuration as seen on the map below and ever find middle ground.

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And this is the central: "Why would Israel be accelerating its settlement building, home demolitions and property confiscations if its long-term plan is peaceful co-existence with the Palestinians?" At least back when Rabin was still alive, you could see that Israeli actions matched Israeli words, but since Bibi has been in charge, their actions have been the opposite their words.

Quick perusal of the posts.

Yup. They are all in here.

Why is Israel's problem our problem?