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Texas GOP member of house introduces bill to radically change social security

Posted on 12/9/16 at 9:13 pm
Posted by Eurocat
Member since Apr 2004
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Posted on 12/9/16 at 9:13 pm
On Thursday, Rep. Sam Johnson, a Republican from Texas and chair of the Ways and Means Committee, introduced legislation to significantly cut Social Security.

The bill introduced by Johnson, who is also the chair of the Social Security subcommittee, slashes benefits, adds means testing, and would raise the retirement age from 67 to 69.

For most workers, the bill would cut Social Security benefits substantially. As Michael Linden, associate director for tax and budget policy at Center for American Progress, pointed out on Twitter, a letter from Social Security’s Office of the Actuary calculated workers making around $50,000 would see checks shrink by between 11% and 35%. 4

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This post was edited on 12/9/16 at 9:16 pm
Posted by PsychTiger
Member since Jul 2004
98836 posts
Posted on 12/9/16 at 9:15 pm to
He must not want us to be like European countries such as Greece.
Posted by Jbird
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Member since Oct 2012
73426 posts
Posted on 12/9/16 at 9:15 pm to
You amaze me you cut and paste without a link.

Other times you blind link what the frick gives?

Posted by Eurocat
Member since Apr 2004
15042 posts
Posted on 12/9/16 at 9:16 pm to
?

Link is there.
Posted by Old Sarge
Dean of Admissions, LSU
Member since Jan 2012
55229 posts
Posted on 12/9/16 at 9:16 pm to
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raise the retirement age from 67 to 69.



bullshite
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
98602 posts
Posted on 12/9/16 at 9:17 pm to
Ok with raising the age.

frick means testing! I pay into it, goddammit (and likely a shitton more than most).
Posted by HempHead
Big Sky Country
Member since Mar 2011
55441 posts
Posted on 12/9/16 at 9:20 pm to
I will never see Social Security or Medicare in my lifetime, despite my contributions.

I'm not stupid enough to depend on them. I plan as if they are non-starters, even if they take away a not insignificant portion of my yearly income. It gives me the red arse, but I can't do much about it.
Posted by Old Hellen Yeller
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2014
9415 posts
Posted on 12/9/16 at 9:20 pm to
Ponzi schemes are doomed to fail. Let's go ahead and get this charade over with.
Posted by Eurocat
Member since Apr 2004
15042 posts
Posted on 12/9/16 at 9:21 pm to
What makes you think you will never see them?

Posted by Eurocat
Member since Apr 2004
15042 posts
Posted on 12/9/16 at 9:21 pm to
Social Security is not a Ponzi scheme.
Posted by HempHead
Big Sky Country
Member since Mar 2011
55441 posts
Posted on 12/9/16 at 9:22 pm to
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What makes you think you will never see them?



I am closing in on 30 in two months. There is no way that I see our entitlement system remaining solvent for another 35-40 years.

quote:

Social Security is not a Ponzi scheme.


I'm not sure what else you call a system that is dependent upon contributors to pay off previous ones.
This post was edited on 12/9/16 at 9:23 pm
Posted by Jbird
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Member since Oct 2012
73426 posts
Posted on 12/9/16 at 9:22 pm to
Nice edit gutter slut
Posted by Eurocat
Member since Apr 2004
15042 posts
Posted on 12/9/16 at 9:24 pm to
The original link did not take, screw off.
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
73426 posts
Posted on 12/9/16 at 9:25 pm to
quote:

The original link did not take
Did not take?
Posted by Old Hellen Yeller
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2014
9415 posts
Posted on 12/9/16 at 9:27 pm to
Millennials only need to have 7 babies each and we can save SS.
Posted by Eurocat
Member since Apr 2004
15042 posts
Posted on 12/9/16 at 9:27 pm to
I do not know what happened. I posted and it did not show and I dunno why.

Have another drink, enjoy Friday.

Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
73426 posts
Posted on 12/9/16 at 9:28 pm to
quote:


Have another drink, enjoy Friday.
Oh trust me Appletini boy I am in fact enjoying Friday.
Posted by bubba68
here, there, everywhere
Member since Oct 2014
435 posts
Posted on 12/9/16 at 9:47 pm to
Politicians stole S/S. Don't get me started. I watched back in the eighties when the crooks in Washington pulled a bait-and-switch on S/S funding. George Bush II wanted to create fully funded IRA's for workers. Believe the cost was estimated at $ 1.5 trillion. Never happened. Instead the so-called Troubled Asset Relief Program (TARP) and Goldman Sachs et al got most (if not all) of the money. The politicians got a slush fund (bogus S/S Trust Fund) and we (future retirees) got screwed.

Want to know the scary part? Had the Republicans not taken over the House (believe it was back in 2010) the democrats were planning to confiscate all IRA and 401k's. Democrat Senator Tom Harkin headed a Congressional Committee looking into the feasibility of confiscating those private retirement accounts.

I have not doubt had Hillary won the election she would have attempted (again) to confiscate those IRA's and 401k's and IMO the Republicans would have let her.

So now along comes this politician........

This post was edited on 12/9/16 at 9:57 pm
Posted by EA6B
TX
Member since Dec 2012
14754 posts
Posted on 12/9/16 at 9:52 pm to
quote:

Social Security is not a Ponzi scheme.


"A Ponzi scheme (/'p?n.zi/; also a Ponzi game) is a fraudulent investment operation where the operator, an individual or organization, pays returns to its investors from new capital paid to the operators by new investors, rather than from profit earned through legitimate sources."
Posted by Wally Sparks
Atlanta
Member since Feb 2013
29133 posts
Posted on 12/9/16 at 9:56 pm to
I'd rather have the ability to opt out completely. frick SS.
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