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re: Texas/Florida leaving the Union

Posted on 1/13/22 at 10:56 am to
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
68064 posts
Posted on 1/13/22 at 10:56 am to
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How likely to you see this happening within the next 10 years
Not a scintilla of a chance.
Posted by Linoge
Member since Jun 2013
1679 posts
Posted on 1/13/22 at 11:00 am to
I think the nation as a whole collapses first and then smaller nations rise out of the ashes.

This will be a hell on earth scenario though. I certainly don't hope it happens. But with the way things are going I feel it is inevitable.

Posted by bluedragon
Birmingham
Member since May 2020
6428 posts
Posted on 1/13/22 at 11:12 am to
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If TX leaders were smart and truly Texas First, we would be using this opportunity to improve our grid to prep us to set us up for a potential departure. Especially since the Dems are calling for a change, let's take advantage of it under the radar. Once set up right for TX, add a plan to take on some other states that may eventually want to join us. TX being the only one with its own grid is a benefit for us to make a move first, but we won't with the current leadership.


The only thing needed for the Texas grid is to close down solar and wind. They are not needed and serve only as CoOps they are not major power plants. Never designed to be one.

Alabama is so red the Democrat candidate for the Shelby Senate Seat is non existent. Jones got his teeth kicked in against Tuberville. 62%-35% is an arse kicking. Jones is not running again. Once we get rid of Memaw ...we would be in ....Our Battle flags are already up north of Montgomery on I-65 and north of Birmingham on I-22.
Posted by fwtex
Member since Nov 2019
1928 posts
Posted on 1/13/22 at 11:14 am to
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And it’s governor has been entirely too squeamish on border issues that affect that state and the rest of the country.



How so? Texas has deployed every available resource to the border. Have you driven along the Texas border to see all that the state is doing down there.

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Texas’s utter shitshow with the windmills causing the power outage during the freeze last year, was inexplicable.


Somewhat true because Texas has a catch 22 energy problem. Being on our own grid is absolutely the right decision. If Texas could connect a backup system that provides electricty to the federal grid without impacting our Texas Grid, Texas would then be able to efficiently run the natural gas power station and supply lower cost energy to its neighbors. The windmills are private funded so its difficult to say no to that industry and still be a state that endorses tech and energy advancements.
Posted by Cajun Tigah
Tennessee Mountains
Member since Jan 2005
4018 posts
Posted on 1/13/22 at 11:22 am to
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0% chance of them leaving but they will remain the states offering the most freedom from federal government overreach


Everyone keeps holding Texas up as some shining example, while those of us in Tennessee are laughing at 30 day Abbott.
Posted by Bwmdx
Member since Dec 2018
2753 posts
Posted on 1/13/22 at 11:25 am to
AKA, The Confederacy will rise again scenario
Posted by tjv305
Member since May 2015
12508 posts
Posted on 1/13/22 at 12:15 pm to
To much corruption for this to happen . Both states are red but not red enough to try this. If the they could gain a lot more republican voters then it could be possible. Florida seems like the best choice because it has less border to protect and should be able to create its own power if they had a few years to prep.
Posted by Wednesday
Member since Aug 2017
15398 posts
Posted on 1/13/22 at 12:26 pm to
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Somewhat true because Texas has a catch 22 energy problem. Being on our own grid is absolutely the right decision. If Texas could connect a backup system that provides electricty to the federal grid without impacting our Texas Grid, Texas would then be able to efficiently run the natural gas power station and supply lower cost energy to its neighbors. The windmills are private funded so its difficult to say no to that industry and still be a state that endorses tech and energy advancements.


There’s no Catch 22. Oil and Gas is Texas’s Bread and Butter. It invented the industry and revolutionized it. There is no logical reason any significant portion of Texas’s power grid would be devoted to freaking windmills. There’s no dilemma it was facing. The windmill idiocy is a metaphor for the myriad of policies that Texas has caved to leftist, big tech, big business on -So they don’t appear quite so “Red.” The same goes with how Abbot addressed immigration. It’s very unTexas to GAF what anyone else thinks.

Abbot couldn’t go around pissing off big business who need cheap labor. I wish Desantis would carpetbag over there. Honestly he could probably solve the National immigration problem by solving it in Texas.

Immigration aside, the windmill thing takes the cake. It was a PR Stunt that valued what a bunch of people from California think over the safety and security of its own citizens, and the industry that made the state wealthy.

You gotta dance with the one who brung ya. And Texas has at some point in the past 10 yrs began trending towards considering the interests and culture of native Texans to be irrelevant. And that’s a damn shame, bc honestly Texas is a second home to me (my dad was a contractor and we spent summers there when I was growing up. He had a Texas Drivers license till he was in his 50s he did so much business there), and my favorite state in the Union (besides my weird arse home state).

I basically think Texas has a Bush Problem. Bunch of East Coast country clubbers posing as cowboys. It’s definitely a better situation than my dysfunctional arse state- but Texas is no longer the intellectual or business incubator it once was. That award goes to the Land of the Jort thanks to the leadership of Ron Desantis who may be the most talented political leader of our lifetimes.

FWIW - neither FL nor TX is leaving the Union, but Florida is LEADING the Union, running away.
This post was edited on 1/13/22 at 12:28 pm
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