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re: Tariffs on importers from China going to 25% Friday, apparently
Posted on 5/5/19 at 7:45 pm to 90proofprofessional
Posted on 5/5/19 at 7:45 pm to 90proofprofessional
quote:wait, who are the "cronies and buddies" because if they're america, then i'm all for protectionism. the us first. otherwise, we're being taken advantage of (gasp, that sounds familiar) and then there won't be any us wealth to trade with
The only long-term play if you actually don't want protectionism for cronies & buddies
quote:explain how that is different than what trump says when he asserts that we need to do business with russia and china. there's nothing wrong with fighting for a level playing field
multilateral trade deals with independent complaint/enforcement mechanism
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Posted on 5/5/19 at 7:46 pm to I B Freeman
quote:yeah. take a snapshot of a volatile, reactionary entity as evidence of whether something is going to work long term. good strategy
Watch the market Monday
Posted on 5/5/19 at 7:47 pm to 90proofprofessional
quote:this once again shows that there's no way to have a rational conversation with "no you didn't" 90proof
correct
Posted on 5/5/19 at 7:49 pm to RogerTheShrubber
quote:tariffs are not directly about putting money in pockets. they are about a level playing field which will eventually benefit both partners.
Tariffs provide neither
Posted on 5/5/19 at 7:51 pm to RogerTheShrubber
quote:not if the trade imbalance is a result of ip theft that is stealing from american innovation
Trade imbalances are a sign of increasing wealth
my word you people are dense. this just isn't rocket science. you can't even come close to acknowledging your idiotic bias on this topic. NPC
quote:tariffs are not designed to be either. they are designed to fix trade problems.
It's an economic destroyer, not creator
Posted on 5/5/19 at 8:31 pm to I B Freeman
quote:i asked you a question that you have not resolved. you are using episodic instances to criticize a response to a systemic problem.
I haven’t been wrong yet
Posted on 5/5/19 at 8:32 pm to 90proofprofessional
quote:
maybe you should get some clarity on his actual position before deciding on what his position has been on your own
what the frick is this? he has made his position abundantly clear for months despite being shown that he's wrong over and overPosted on 5/5/19 at 8:34 pm to I B Freeman
quote:THEY AREN'T SUPPOSED TO. my word
These tariffs have added NOTHING to the economy
quote:link? otherwise, you are talking out of your rear
I guarantee you Boeing’s arse is tight right now
quote:
It would help Trump if he could actually deliver a trade deal
he's kicking chini arse all over the placePosted on 5/5/19 at 8:35 pm to I B Freeman
quote:you and "no you didn't" 90proof. the 2 biggest charlatans on the board. not even close
They will be much more apparent at retail
Posted on 5/5/19 at 8:36 pm to I B Freeman
quote:this is the 90proof version of "when those tax breaks wear off!!"
No way Boeing losses a order
Posted on 5/5/19 at 8:37 pm to Aubie Spr96
quote:quote a conservative saying they are for long term tariffs that have nothing to do with ip theft. otherwise, you're just attacking a strawman
Our small gov’t Rs love protectionist tariffs
Posted on 5/5/19 at 8:41 pm to 90proofprofessional
quote:this coming from board favorite "muh fed" 90proof
here for the bnfii melt
Posted on 5/5/19 at 11:46 pm to bfniii
Tariffs cause economic inputs to be artificially allocated. Industries protected by tariffs tend to lose efficiencies that competition insures and they tie up capital and labor that would have higher economic value in some other industry in the economy.
They are never good and never have been.
They are never good and never have been.
This post was edited on 5/5/19 at 11:49 pm
Posted on 5/5/19 at 11:54 pm to I B Freeman
DOW futures are off about 2% right now-500 points or about $140 billion less than Friday
Some Trumpkins here will happy because Chinese markets are off further. What kind of logic is that?
Some Trumpkins here will happy because Chinese markets are off further. What kind of logic is that?
Posted on 5/5/19 at 11:57 pm to I B Freeman
How would like if the government suddenly taxed your property an addition 15% Friday?
Think about importers with shipments on the water expecting a 10% tariff and now being hit with two and half times that? Trump is screwing them hard.
Think about importers with shipments on the water expecting a 10% tariff and now being hit with two and half times that? Trump is screwing them hard.
Posted on 5/6/19 at 12:03 am to RogerTheShrubber
quote:
Who is ultimately paying for these tariffs?
Looks like the Chinese. Lowering their profits to keep their shite products competitive.
Posted on 5/6/19 at 3:11 am to 90proofprofessional
Your brain only functions at 90 proof.
Posted on 5/6/19 at 7:10 am to bfniii
bfniii,
Your points all make sense, and are in the best interest of the United States. The Shanghai market agrees with you.
Your points all make sense, and are in the best interest of the United States. The Shanghai market agrees with you.
Posted on 5/6/19 at 7:59 am to bfniii
quote:
who are the "cronies and buddies" because if they're america
they're not, as is indicated by the choice of the word crony, as in politically-connected insiders, operating against the best interests of america in general
otherwise they wouldn't need to get the government to try to get americans to change the things they choose to buy
quote:
explain how that is different than what trump says when he asserts that we need to do business with russia and china
TPP, which would have lowered tens of thousands of tariffs on right now, have already increased IP protections, and have isolated china on the outside
HTH
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