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re: Tariffs not bringing in what trump said they would….

Posted on 5/2/25 at 9:00 am to
Posted by EphesianArmor
Member since Mar 2025
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Posted on 5/2/25 at 9:00 am to
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If Trump said he saved 7 people from drowning and it turned out to be just 5, the left would go crazy about that lying Trump.


Probably.

And to balance that, Hannity and FNC would claim Trump leaped out of a chopper into the foaming seas in his red tie and blue suit, tuck the seven libs on his back, then swam back to shore.


Posted by EphesianArmor
Member since Mar 2025
3014 posts
Posted on 5/2/25 at 9:04 am to
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It's also funny that critics are arguing against things like pharma and tech.


Are you a lobbyist for Pfizer or Moderna? OR Larry Ellison?

By the way, "Critics" are arguing against Big Pharm poisons and AI Data Centers and Infringement on humanity.

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We SUPER need at least some domestic presence in those sectors


Says who?
Posted by EphesianArmor
Member since Mar 2025
3014 posts
Posted on 5/2/25 at 9:14 am to
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Have a client that produces a good, with international market, took a hard look at the effect of tariffs on their business. Had plans to move production to the US. Now, because of tariffs, They are *not* moving production to the US. Why?...Because of other country's recriprocal tariffs make exporting from the US almost impossible. US manufacturing costs + tariffs > Asian manufacturing costs + tariffs.

They were barely competitive with US COGS, but with tariffs on top, no one in the world can afford their product.


Nice anecdotal example and explanation.

Most people don't understand tariffs to begin with; and especially don't understand how jacked up tariffs on imports adversely affecting US small business importer profits margins. Product pricing must be adjusted now and passed along to the consumer OR ELSE go out of business (the real plan, because then ONLY Big Corporations can afford razor-thin profit margins.)
Posted by somethingdifferent
Member since Aug 2024
1708 posts
Posted on 5/2/25 at 10:08 pm to
doomcaster says "Not really" working and then proceeds to give an anecdote as if that somehow wipes out all the success stories, including the lastest news that even China is starting to buckle and negotiate

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Because of other country's recriprocal tariffs
TEMPORARY

You people can't grasp that notion, can you?

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Our fiscal problem is our sovereign debt
That's not the only problem

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But that has nothing to do with trade deficit
The trade deficit is a big, big problem and it's getting fixed with the el rapido

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Cutting demand for US dollars will only make our debt situation worse, not better
Neither of those things you just said are correct. We're not cutting demand for the dollar and so far, the tariffs are working pretty much exactly as Trump said they would
Posted by somethingdifferent
Member since Aug 2024
1708 posts
Posted on 5/2/25 at 10:14 pm to
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I've done nothing of the sort
You quoted yourself admitting that they are doing precisely what they are designed to do, meaning they are working.

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YOU are the one who assured ME new US FACTORIES are RE-TOOLING
I never said anything like that nonsense

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So there's "chatting" and "deals" being clucked about. Big whoop
And money being made. Or haven't you heard the news? BTW, getting these countries to the table is way more than any other president accomplished in the last 2 or 3 decades

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It's CHYNA who's by far our biggest supplier of manufactured goods
It's interesting you mention them....

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By that time many of us will be 6' under or hopefully Raptured
And your point is?

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And IF any of what Chyna manufactures in their seat-shops is brought back to the USA, the jobs will be low-paying, "supervised" or run by ROBOTS
Meaning domestic as opposed to foreign. I'll take that. Much much better than our pharma and computer processors being made out of our control
Posted by somethingdifferent
Member since Aug 2024
1708 posts
Posted on 5/2/25 at 10:17 pm to
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Says who?
You must have forgotten what happened when there was a problem with computer processors and what that little tiny short incident did to american goods. How can you be so naive and ignorant.

You want China making all our pharma? Are you frickin crazy?

You people
Posted by somethingdifferent
Member since Aug 2024
1708 posts
Posted on 5/2/25 at 10:18 pm to
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Product pricing must be adjusted now and passed along to the consumer
There's the false dichotomy again
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