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Posted on 9/22/23 at 9:44 am to Ribbed
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I don't think we should underestimate the possibility that Biden would drag us into full scale open war if he thought he was losing the election as an excuse to suspend voting
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I hope someone, somewhere in power is planning to counter that ploy.
Posted on 9/22/23 at 9:49 am to Bunk Moreland
I have tremendous respect for Hersh. It's hard to not have respect for him.
However, during this war he's had some...questionable reporting. His story on the US being behind the pipeline attack had a single unnamed source.
Does he actually give a name for any of the individuals he talks with?
However, during this war he's had some...questionable reporting. His story on the US being behind the pipeline attack had a single unnamed source.
Does he actually give a name for any of the individuals he talks with?
Posted on 9/22/23 at 9:55 am to offshoretrash
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1000s of Ukrainian soldiers are dying every day. Their comanders are sending them to get slaughtered like the Russians did in WWII.
There needs to be a mutiny....or a surrender.
Posted on 9/22/23 at 9:57 am to idlewatcher
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There needs to be a mutiny....or a surrender
Nothing says American principles like give up and welcome the invaders.
Posted on 9/22/23 at 9:59 am to The Maj
At what point does anyone ask the Biden Administration why it is willing to trade the lives of Ukrainian soldiers for poll numbers?
Posted on 9/22/23 at 10:04 am to Rule 303
I wouldn’t Russia “won” the war. They were repelled from taking Kiev and the western part and the replacing the government. They have simply consolidate their gains in the East and now it’s a stalemate. The Ukes can’t displace them even with advance Western weaponry
At this point a deal needs to be made that involves Zelensky making territorial concessions in exchange for peace. Ukraine stays out of NATO but with security guarantees from the West.
At this point a deal needs to be made that involves Zelensky making territorial concessions in exchange for peace. Ukraine stays out of NATO but with security guarantees from the West.
This post was edited on 9/22/23 at 10:05 am
Posted on 9/22/23 at 10:28 am to 14&Counting
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I wouldn’t Russia “won” the war. They were repelled from taking Kiev and the western part and the replacing the government. They have simply consolidate their gains in the East and now it’s a stalemate. The Ukes can’t displace them even with advance Western weaponry
I agree with all this.
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At this point a deal needs to be made that involves Zelensky making territorial concessions in exchange for peace. Ukraine stays out of NATO but with security guarantees from the West.
Here’s the problem. Who is going to police the peace? If the West guarantees Ukraine’s security they may as well be allowed in NATO, right??? If the West didn’t guarantee security, then how long would it before Russia attacked Ukraine for the third time?
The problem isn’t the West, the problem is Russia. They can’t be trusted to be good neighbors. They are militaristic and have proven over time to be a real threat to nations on their borders.
Posted on 9/22/23 at 10:29 am to Bunk Moreland
Ukraine has no chance of anything but survival. Re-taking areas isn’t going to happen. But to say Russia has won isn’t quite accurate either. Nobody has won or will win. End the war. Peace is winning. People live, rebuilding can occur and we move away from WWIII.
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