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Posted on 1/5/24 at 6:02 pm to BamaAtl
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He was found to have engaged in it while an officer of the United States.
When did Donald Trump serve as an officer of the United States?
Per SCOTUS, POTUS is generally not considered an “officer of the United States” for constitutional purposes. “Officers of the United States” are appointed and confirmed executive branch employees.
When the Constitution means POTUS, it says so specifically.
Posted on 1/5/24 at 6:02 pm to moneyg
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There was no insurrection.
What was the ultimate goal of January 6th?
You know, the day Trump demanded his supporters storm the Capitol to interrupt the counting of electoral votes in the hopes of convincing his VP to illegally throw out some legally cast votes and swing the election to Donald Trump, who did not win it. And who later incited his supporters to violence against that very same VP when he refused to break the law to overturn the election.
What was the goal of that, if not insurrection? It wasn't a picnic.
Posted on 1/5/24 at 6:03 pm to BamaAtl
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The Colorado Supreme Court, for one. Why do you keep asking a question that's been answered? Do you not understand something?
That’s because you’ve yet to answer the question what criminal court found Trump guilty of the crime of insurrection. The reason you can’t answer this question is because it didn’t happen.
Posted on 1/5/24 at 6:03 pm to VOR
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If they follow originalism and textuali, Trump loses
No. If they follow original and textualist principles, POTUS is NOT an “officer of the United States”
Posted on 1/5/24 at 6:03 pm to Indefatigable
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When did Donald Trump serve as an officer of the United States?
January 2017-January 2021.
During the drafting of the 14th Amendment it was specifically mentioned that it would keep Jefferson Davis from becoming President of the United States.
Given the current SCOTUS's love of originalism, there is no doubt that the President is covered under the 14th.
Posted on 1/5/24 at 6:04 pm to BamaAtl
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What was the ultimate goal of January 6th?
Post a link to the conviction in Colorado or shut yur fking mouth.
Posted on 1/5/24 at 6:04 pm to BamaAtl
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You know, the day Trump demanded his supporters storm the Capitol to interrupt the counting of electoral votes in the hopes of convincing his VP to illegally throw out some legally cast votes and swing the election to Donald Trump, who did not win it. And who later incited his supporters to violence against that very same VP when he refused to break the law to overturn the election.
Pretending that you actually believe this and constantly pretending like it was an actual attempt to overthrow the government is exactly why no one takes the Democratic Party seriously.
Just quit the out of control hyperbole.
Posted on 1/5/24 at 6:05 pm to BamaAtl
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January 2017-January 2021.
Wrong. POTUS is not an officer of the United States
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During the drafting of the 14th Amendment it was specifically mentioned that it would keep Jefferson Davis from becoming President of the United States.
Cool. That’s not relevant in any way. Jefferson Davis was a member of congress and a member of the cabinet (an actual “officer of the United States”) before engaging in rebellion, moron. Hence the clear applicability of the 14th to Jefferson Davis.
Has Donald Trump served in Congress? I must have missed that.
This post was edited on 1/5/24 at 6:22 pm
Posted on 1/5/24 at 6:05 pm to thebigmuffaletta
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what criminal court found Trump guilty of the crime of insurrection.
Where is it mentioned that this is a requirement?
Because it's not in the Constitution.
May as well ask which Court found Trump guilty of landing on the moon, since it carries the same weight.
Posted on 1/5/24 at 6:06 pm to Indefatigable
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Just quit the out of control hyperbole.
Have you never interacted with Liberal Women?
They are all without exception, certifiably insane.
This crazy Reddit btch doesn't live in reality.
Posted on 1/5/24 at 6:06 pm to Indefatigable
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it was an actual attempt to overthrow the government
I'm not sure what else you would call attempting to overturn a lawful election by armed supporters, but for the purposes of excluding Trump from the ballot it fits perfectly.
Posted on 1/5/24 at 6:06 pm to VOR
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they follow originalism and textuali, Trump loses.
what do you know about Due Process? Tell us its importance vis a vis textualism, you fricking clownPosted on 1/5/24 at 6:07 pm to BamaAtl
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Where is it mentioned that this is a requirement?
Look, Pedo, you just said the Colorado Supreme Court found him guilty of insurrection.
Link to the documents showing a conviction, you fking moron.
Posted on 1/5/24 at 6:08 pm to BamaAtl
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I'm not sure what else you would call attempting to overturn a lawful election by armed supporters,
I'd call it fiction spouted by Pedo Democrats.
Posted on 1/5/24 at 6:08 pm to BamaAtl
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I'm not sure what else you would call attempting to overturn a lawful election by armed supporters
Rampant hyperbole.
Posted on 1/5/24 at 6:09 pm to oogabooga68
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Post a link to the conviction in Colorado
Not required. That the Colorado Supreme Court made a factual finding that he did so and was ineligible is all that's required per the 14th Amendment.
Posted on 1/5/24 at 6:09 pm to BamaAtl
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When did Donald Trump serve as an officer of the United States? January 2017-January 2021.
Gotta love people who didn’t go to law school commenting on this as if they’ve studied what an officer of the court or any other pertinent legal matter means
Posted on 1/5/24 at 6:10 pm to BamaAtl
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During the drafting of the 14th Amendment it was specifically mentioned that it would keep Jefferson Davis from becoming President of the United States
He had previously been Secretary of War and a Congressman, thus falling under the provisions of Section 3.
Posted on 1/5/24 at 6:10 pm to thebigmuffaletta
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If insurrection is a political question and not a legal question, then every democrat who cheered on the “summer of love” and is helping to facilitate open borders is guilty of insurrection.
Well, now all those kids BamaAtl murdered with all her abortions; he should be sentenced to, at least, life in prison.
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