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Sunday night "what if" thread: What if HRC won, where would we be right now? 5/20/2018?

Posted on 5/20/18 at 10:08 pm
Posted by 225bred
COYS
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 5/20/18 at 10:08 pm
Discuss PT.



Posted by DabosDynasty
Member since Apr 2017
5179 posts
Posted on 5/20/18 at 10:12 pm to
In America, just much worse off
Posted by 225bred
COYS
Member since Jun 2011
20386 posts
Posted on 5/20/18 at 10:13 pm to
quote:

In America, just much worse off



cheeky, well done
Posted by Vastmind
B Ara
Member since Sep 2013
4992 posts
Posted on 5/20/18 at 10:16 pm to
FEMA would be firing up the ovens as we speak
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
69289 posts
Posted on 5/20/18 at 10:18 pm to
Probably some sort of scandal of her own relating to lynch and the email investigation.

Political gridlock.

Posted by DabosDynasty
Member since Apr 2017
5179 posts
Posted on 5/20/18 at 10:20 pm to
It was served on a platter, but my response was also true. Couldn’t help it.

We wouldn’t have the special counsel. No tax cuts. We’d still have Obamacare. Wouldn’t have Gorsuch, but would have another very liberal justice. She’d have a full cabinet because they’d approve them all in normal order. We’d potentially have some undesirable gun control measure passed, imo. Not repeal of 2A, but significant restriction. The 3 hostages would still be in NK suffering. I think tensions with Russia would actually be worse. NK would still be firing rockets over Japan. Isis wouldn’t have been kicked out of Iraq and wouldn’t be on its last legs. On and on and on.

Posted by 225bred
COYS
Member since Jun 2011
20386 posts
Posted on 5/20/18 at 10:38 pm to
What do you think would be her first attempt at landmark/legacy legislation?

Does she push healthcare to single payer?
Posted by reo45
Member since Nov 2015
6362 posts
Posted on 5/20/18 at 10:44 pm to
Nothing much really.

Maybe we would have less jobs because she would not have bucked regulations like Trump.

Outside that immigration would still be the same. Obamacare would still be law as it is today. Tax cuts would not have been enacted, but spending would be but the same. States would still be sinking like Louisiana.

Etc. Etc.
Posted by beachdude
FL
Member since Nov 2008
5638 posts
Posted on 5/20/18 at 11:08 pm to
I think we as a republic would be further on the road to ruin than we can imagine.

Not sure about The Donald, but his infinitely superior quality is that he is NOT her.

I think he may surprise us all.
Posted by Presidio
Member since Nov 2017
3060 posts
Posted on 5/20/18 at 11:13 pm to
sighting in my scopes and handloads for very long range shots
Posted by DyeHardDylan
Member since Nov 2011
7730 posts
Posted on 5/20/18 at 11:22 pm to
ISIS would still be spreading in the Middle East, we’d be in another Cold War with Russia, the economy would still be stagnant, and we’d be trying to appease North Korea
Posted by Gusoline
Jacksonville, NC
Member since Dec 2013
7629 posts
Posted on 5/20/18 at 11:33 pm to
I would have kept my promise in quitting my job and living off the system.

I'd prob be cooking some ramen waiting on the holiday weekend for my gubment check to get here so I could spend most of it on booze.
Posted by claremontrich
Member since Nov 2016
2001 posts
Posted on 5/20/18 at 11:40 pm to
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Discuss PT.








FRICKED
Posted by starsandstripes
Georgia
Member since Nov 2017
11897 posts
Posted on 5/21/18 at 2:07 am to
First term -
She would have used the whole wikileaks / Russia thing to expand the Patriot Act some more - and we'd lose ground on our 4th, 5th, 6th, and 14th Amendment rights. She would also use it to create a phony story about the security of voting machines and pledge "reforms" on the integrity of the voting process, which would have massive back doors that could be exploited.

She would have put a liberal lunatic on SCOTUS and arranged for RBG to retire and put a young liberal loon on the court to replace her and then have one of the remaining conservative justices die, allowing her to tip the court all the way to the left for the next 25 years, and importantly, before her second term.

She would push net neutrality and it's subsequent & scheduled followups to erode the 1st Amendment, and control information.

She would manufacture crisis or statistics or both to prompt a "discussion" on gun control and have people at DOJ and ATF start harassing everything pro-2A.

She would embolden the free speech restrictions at universities, probably appoint some panel to discuss hate speech and inclusivity and the other buzz words.

She would move to obligate trillions in our tax dollars to subsidizing the administrative infrastructure of our educational system from tuition loans to more administrators, expansion of Title IX and on and on.

She would do worse than simply having open borders, she would import radicals, losers, and leeches directly.

She would, about this time, manufacture a crisis with Russia and Iran, leading oil and gas prices to sky rocket and she'd have us on the doorstep to entering war.

She would make sure to be a war time president during 2020 election season and then manipulated the voting integrity measures to insure she got re-elected.

Second term -
Move to viciously restrict news media in the guise of eliminating hate speech and so forth and kicked off similar efforts for public discourse like this message board.

Created tragedy or capitalized on one to push for national measures on gun control, probably using the SG to go direct to SCOTUS, which she would have already packed, and 2A would be on a glideslope to elimination.

Used the 'war' and tension with Russia, along with the Patriot Act expansion, with an unchecked DOJ, FBI, and IC to get anything she wants through Congress.

By 2024 the United States would exist in name only and I truly believe she might even try to create a new nation through a merger of the US and Mexico, which would be the official end to the US - she of course would be in charge and the Constitution would then be ripped apart and redrawn. We would all be slaves at that point.

When you have the deep state, you can get a lot done in 8 years. When you are fighting the deep state, everything takes forever.


Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
80097 posts
Posted on 5/21/18 at 2:10 am to
She's find a way to manipulate the defense appropriations bill to drastically slash the pay and benefits of those in uniform and military retirees; using that money to fund more useless social justice warrior goals.
Posted by starsandstripes
Georgia
Member since Nov 2017
11897 posts
Posted on 5/21/18 at 2:27 am to
quote:

She's find a way to manipulate the defense appropriations bill to drastically slash the pay and benefits of those in uniform and military retirees; using that money to fund more useless social justice warrior goals.


I bet she would try to eliminate TRICARE and fold those people over into Obamacare.
Posted by DabosDynasty
Member since Apr 2017
5179 posts
Posted on 5/21/18 at 7:36 am to
quote:

What do you think would be her first attempt at landmark/legacy legislation?


Probably a legislative response to the “gender pay gap.” In quotations because it’s a fake problem.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260347 posts
Posted on 5/21/18 at 7:38 am to
She would be blaming Republican Congress for her issues.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
73571 posts
Posted on 5/21/18 at 7:39 am to
War with Russia
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
64323 posts
Posted on 5/21/18 at 7:40 am to
Jim Carrey would seem sane.
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