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re: Stop this nonsense!! Open your eyes, drop the hate!

Posted on 1/23/21 at 2:35 pm to
Posted by CaTiger85
Member since Feb 2020
1394 posts
Posted on 1/23/21 at 2:35 pm to
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Antifa is not a hate group.


Holy shite.
Posted by CaTiger85
Member since Feb 2020
1394 posts
Posted on 1/23/21 at 2:37 pm to
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Antifa does exist but unlike the right wingers they are only fighting to keep blacks from getting gun down by police


Ohhh. I get it now. You have the white savior complex. Dude....you’re super racist.
Posted by Nguyener
Kame House
Member since Mar 2013
20603 posts
Posted on 1/23/21 at 2:38 pm to
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Antifa does exist but unlike the right wingers they are only fighting to keep blacks from getting gun down by police in situations where if the same suspect was white they would apprehend the subject without using lethal force


You’re either completely ignorant or dangerously disingenuous

Posted by Number1Gump
Atlanta, GA
Member since Aug 2009
1368 posts
Posted on 1/23/21 at 2:44 pm to
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Wolfhound45


Wolfhound that is definitely a stupid way to respond to things you don't like. I'm big enough to give you that...But what I need you to do is understand why those people are so angry. When you see your friends, family and neighbors getting killed seemingly for no reason or no valid reason and you continuously ask for justice and get nothing it makes you that mad!! I guarantee if the police treated blacks the way they treat whites the all of those pictures you just posted wouldn't exist. See you are looking at the reaction and disregarding the cause! Even though the reaction is not proper can you at least admit there is some extreme bias taking place. Thats the point we have to get to as a country. Everyone is overlooking whats plainly right in from of them.
Posted by Number1Gump
Atlanta, GA
Member since Aug 2009
1368 posts
Posted on 1/23/21 at 2:56 pm to
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Holy shite


CaTiger

I never said they don't do hateful things. All I'm saying is look at what they are trying to change! Equal treatment by law enforcement. Again you're focusing on the reaction and not looking at why they protest/riot (not warranted). I can't even get a person in here to admit there's a double standard between the way police treat blacks versus whites. (in some cases not all) It's like all you can see is They Hate They Hate They Hate!! If the police stopped your son for a broken tail-light but ended up shooting him and killing him because he reached for his registration in the glove box you'd be mad as hell. I don't understand nobody in here is big enough to admit that!
Posted by Number1Gump
Atlanta, GA
Member since Aug 2009
1368 posts
Posted on 1/23/21 at 3:02 pm to
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You’re either completely ignorant or dangerously disingenuous


Ok Nguyener,
What do you think Antifa stands for? I mean...what do think they promote/why are they protesting? It seems all you see is the rioting and opportunist that aren't even Antifa. Just destructive people out to get free shite and loot. Don't buy in to them being Antifa and what some of the media portrays. Have an open mind and try to see things from a different perspective.
Posted by Nguyener
Kame House
Member since Mar 2013
20603 posts
Posted on 1/23/21 at 3:02 pm to
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When you see your friends, family and neighbors getting killed seemingly for no reason or no valid reason and you continuously ask for justice and get nothing it makes you that mad!!


You mean like everyone in those communities this summer?

Interesting how selective and hypocritically you apply standards. Violence and hate groups are ok if they’re on your side? That’s a principle you’re ok with?
This post was edited on 1/23/21 at 3:04 pm
Posted by Nguyener
Kame House
Member since Mar 2013
20603 posts
Posted on 1/23/21 at 3:06 pm to
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What do you think Antifa stands for?


Violence, hatred, and destruction. It’s not what I think. It’s what they openly declare.

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what do think they promote/why are they protesting?


Anarchy and mental illness. And communism.

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Have an open mind and try to see things from a different perspective.


I can see things from many perspectives. Communism is responsible for more death and starvation and violence than any other ideology in the history of mankind. And Antifa is full of radical communists who openly declare they want the destruction of America. What perspective am I supposed to view that makes that a good or acceptable?
This post was edited on 1/23/21 at 3:07 pm
Posted by Number1Gump
Atlanta, GA
Member since Aug 2009
1368 posts
Posted on 1/23/21 at 3:08 pm to
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You mean like everyone in those communities this summer?

Interesting how selective and hypocritically you apply standards. Violence and hate groups are ok if they’re on your side? That’s a principle you’re ok with?



Dude....I never said it's ok!!! I just said you can't even understand why they are upset. You don't even see the double standard! Can you at least see that? We can both agree that the response is wrong but you're still jumping to the reaction without admitting there's a cause.
This post was edited on 1/23/21 at 3:08 pm
Posted by Wolfhound45
Hanging with Chicken in Lurkistan
Member since Nov 2009
120000 posts
Posted on 1/23/21 at 3:12 pm to
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I just said you can't even understand why they are upset.
And you cannot understand why we are upset. Give it a rest.
Posted by Nguyener
Kame House
Member since Mar 2013
20603 posts
Posted on 1/23/21 at 3:13 pm to
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just said you can't even understand why they are upset

Why can’t I? You don’t know anything about me. You just assume things and then apply that assumption to people.

You have a white is right god complex. Most leftists do.

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You don't even see the double standard!

What double standard?

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We can both agree that the response is wrong but you're still jumping to the reaction without admitting there's a cause.

There’s definitely a cause. Lack of fathers in the home, lack of education, lack of proper parenting, all of which are directly attributable to leftists anti-family anti-black anti-life policies.

I believe all life inherently has value and all people can achieve if they try. The left believes only the people they approve have value and some people are too stupid to ever achieve anything without their help.
This post was edited on 1/23/21 at 3:14 pm
Posted by Number1Gump
Atlanta, GA
Member since Aug 2009
1368 posts
Posted on 1/23/21 at 3:16 pm to
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I can see things from many perspectives. Communism is responsible for more death and starvation and violence than any other ideology in the history of mankind. And Antifa is full of radical communists who openly declare they want the destruction of America. What perspective am I supposed to view that makes that a good or acceptable?


You're really spinning this the wrong way. They only want equal rights for all Americans and for ALL Americans to be treated fair, equal, and just.

Ok forget ANTIFA...Do YOU think there's a bias or double-standard in the way police treat people of color?
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
123887 posts
Posted on 1/23/21 at 3:22 pm to
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NC_Tigah...It really doesn't matter where it came from now we all have to deal with it.
There is an old saying ... those who don't learn from history are doomed to repeat it. CV19 escaped from a shoddily run WIV lab. Unless you want another pandemic in a couple of years, CV19's origin matters...A LOT!
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they are only fighting to keep blacks
False! Antifa is a pseudonym used by communists. Their sole interest in blacks and in critical theory is in exaggerating and exacerbating wedge issues. That's it. Many of their corollary groups admit as much.

As I said, either you know far less than you seem to assume, or you're a total troll.
This post was edited on 1/23/21 at 3:23 pm
Posted by CaTiger85
Member since Feb 2020
1394 posts
Posted on 1/23/21 at 3:24 pm to
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If the police stopped your son for a broken tail-light but ended up shooting him and killing him because he reached for his registration in the glove box you'd be mad as hell.

Please link when this has happened.

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I don't understand nobody in here is big enough to admit that!


Admit what?


Do you admit rape is wrong? Do you ascribe to believe all women? Let’s see how consistent you are.
Posted by Nguyener
Kame House
Member since Mar 2013
20603 posts
Posted on 1/23/21 at 3:24 pm to
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They only want equal rights for all Americans and for ALL Americans to be treated fair, equal, and just.


That’s what you think the stated goal of ANTIFA is? I’m the one with the spin problem? That is not at all what Antifa wants. Not even a little bit. Prove me wrong.

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Do YOU think there's a bias or double-standard in the way police treat people of color?


Do I think cops treat people differently because of the color of their skin? No.

Do I think cops treat people differently who are committing crimes in ultra highcrime areas? Yes. The cops have shot plenty of white people. Those are just rarely reported. And when the cops do shoot a white person no one burns a city down as a result.
Posted by Number1Gump
Atlanta, GA
Member since Aug 2009
1368 posts
Posted on 1/23/21 at 3:29 pm to
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There’s definitely a cause. Lack of fathers in the home, lack of education, lack of proper parenting, all of which are directly attributable to leftists anti-family anti-black anti-life policies.



Partly true except for the leftists part. Many laws and policies not applied evenly contribute to this.

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I believe all life inherently has value and all people can achieve if they try. The left believes only the people they approve have value and some people are too stupid to ever achieve anything without their help.



The libs only try to level the playing field which is systemically controlled by whites. While I agree sometimes they are too lenient, to pretend there isn't biased in America disproportionately in favor of whites is being naive.


Posted by Nguyener
Kame House
Member since Mar 2013
20603 posts
Posted on 1/23/21 at 3:31 pm to
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The libs only try to level the playing field which is systemically controlled by whites.


What are you talking about?

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to pretend there isn't biased in America disproportionately in favor of whites is being naive.


What does this mean?
Posted by Number1Gump
Atlanta, GA
Member since Aug 2009
1368 posts
Posted on 1/23/21 at 3:43 pm to
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Do I think cops treat people differently because of the color of their skin? No.



You can't be serious!

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Do I think cops treat people differently who are committing crimes in ultra highcrime areas? Yes. The cops have shot plenty of white people. Those are just rarely reported. And when the cops do shoot a white person no one burns a city down as a result.



Your blinders are on again. Yes cops have shot white people before. Every race has law breakers but they shoot blacks without a weapon disproportionately more than they shoot whites. Look at George Floyd was there a reason to keep his knee on neck damn near 10 minutes? What about Tamir Rice? You don't think they should have put more effort into apprehending a 12 yo playing with a toy gun in a park rather than shooting him? What about Philando Castile? Stopped for a traffic incident with his girlfriend and child in the car but took 7 bullets to the chest going home from the grocery store. Didn't even have a gun in the car. You can justify all of these shootings can't you? And you don't see any bias?
Posted by Number1Gump
Atlanta, GA
Member since Aug 2009
1368 posts
Posted on 1/23/21 at 3:54 pm to
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to pretend there isn't bias in America disproportionately in favor of whites is being naive.



Just an example: There are plenty of blacks in jail breaking minor crimes but the penalties are handed out differently. A judge gives the black man kid 10 years for stealing a car. Same judge gives a white kid with the same crime 3 months jail with 6 years probation if any jail time at all. This treatment happens more than you may care to admit.

Things like this happen in more than just the judicial system. How loans are given out for mortgages, at jobs, many, small business loans. It's just the product of how this country was built and there is no easy solution to fix it.
Posted by Nguyener
Kame House
Member since Mar 2013
20603 posts
Posted on 1/23/21 at 4:03 pm to
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A judge gives the black man kid 10 years for stealing a car. Same judge gives a white kid with the same crime 3 months jail with 6 years probation if any jail time at all


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