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re: Stop acting like we’re not a democracy, we’re a republic. We’re both.

Posted on 10/11/24 at 7:31 am to
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 10/11/24 at 7:31 am to
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I see this post constantly. “We’re not a democracy, we’re a republic.”


The anti Democracy rant comes from the Left wingers constantly crying about "their democracy."

They want a popular vote for everything. Our Republic has a muted democracy, its not 100% Democratic.

frick "your" Democracy.
This post was edited on 10/11/24 at 7:32 am
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 10/11/24 at 7:32 am to
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If you take time to understand the purpose of this then a democracy isn’t even close to the type of government we are supposed to have.

The founders had every intention of using elections for various purposes (including selecting representatives in the republic). That's democracy.

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Democracy has been given a positive connotation by the brainwashing education system. It always results in suppression of individual rights.

A republic accomplishes the same negative externalities, too.

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realize that we aren’t supposed to be a Democracy.

I will prove that we're a democracy and a republic by voting for President in a few weeks
This post was edited on 10/11/24 at 7:33 am
Posted by Gaggle
Member since Oct 2021
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Posted on 10/11/24 at 7:33 am to
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The didactic method concerning facts of history, social changes, economic development, and basic principles of our Government will be used without discussion and without argument, special emphasis being given to the fact that the United States is a Republic, not a democracy
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The American philosophy of government emphasizes that —
(7)' The Government of the United States is not a democracy but a Republic.


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Madison, in the Federalist, emphasized the fact that this government was a republic and not a democracy, the Constitution makers having considered both an autocracy and a democracy as undesirable forms of government while " a republic promises the cure for which we are seeking."



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Democracy: A government of the masses.
Authority derived through mass meeting or any other form of " direct " expression.
Results in mobocracy.
Attitude toward property is communistic — negating property rights.
Attitude toward law is that the will of the majority shall regulate; whether it be based upon deliberation or governed by passion, prejudice, and impulse, without restraint or regard to consequences.
Results in demagogism, license, agitation, discontent, anarchy.



1928 US Army Training Manual
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Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298305 posts
Posted on 10/11/24 at 7:34 am to
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I will prove that we're a democracy


Quasi, we fear tyranny of the majority which "Our Republic" protects us from.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
467781 posts
Posted on 10/11/24 at 7:34 am to
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I get lost frequently when people I otherwise respect and think are intelligent dig in behind a talking point that is fully detached from reality. This is one of those talking points.


It's a real NPC display.

We are a:

Constitutional
Federal
Democratic
Republic

Our system involves all of those factors.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
467781 posts
Posted on 10/11/24 at 7:37 am to
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Quasi, we fear tyranny of the majority which "Our Republic" protects us from.


The Constitutional aspect is what really protects us.

The republican aspect still instills fear of tyranny if the other side wins a majority of the governing body. That's why the very next step in the apocalypse fetishizing is to claim that other side will subdue the Constitutional limits of government and protections of citizens.
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
86407 posts
Posted on 10/11/24 at 7:38 am to
A republic is a form of democracy but a democracy is not a republic.

Posted by Gaggle
Member since Oct 2021
7286 posts
Posted on 10/11/24 at 7:38 am to
Some things are commonly owned, which is an aspect of communism. But we're not a communism
Promulgating the idea that it is simply a democracy is intentional and subversive by oligarchs.
Calling it simply a "democracy" ad nauseum is very dangerous to our Republic
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
467781 posts
Posted on 10/11/24 at 7:40 am to
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A republic is a form of democracy

Not necessarily.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
467781 posts
Posted on 10/11/24 at 7:42 am to
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Calling it simply a "democracy" ad nauseum is very dangerous to our Republic

You're being very dramatic here.

You would have a point if people didn't understand that they vote for representatives, but they do.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298305 posts
Posted on 10/11/24 at 7:44 am to
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You're being very dramatic here.


Mo, the people crying for "My Democracy" are the ones being dramatic. This is simply pushback
Posted by Gaggle
Member since Oct 2021
7286 posts
Posted on 10/11/24 at 7:44 am to
Take it up with Founders. They specifically stressed it was not a democracy, and like the (lowercase r) republicans of antiquity considered democracy a bad form of government. They thought the distinction was very important.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298305 posts
Posted on 10/11/24 at 7:45 am to
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republicans of antiquity considered democracy a bad form of government


It is.

Nerds and Dummies both make poor political choices and would destroy their world if they had a direct vote.
Posted by Gaggle
Member since Oct 2021
7286 posts
Posted on 10/11/24 at 7:46 am to
if you understand democracy is simply and purely shadow oligarchy, the oligarchs control the media and message, controlling the masses and thereby the government, it's easy to understand why they very much have a vested, nefarious interest in intentionally altering our terminology and understanding of what our government is
Posted by mooseofterror
USA
Member since Dec 2012
1481 posts
Posted on 10/11/24 at 7:46 am to
Define Democracy.

If majority rule pops up then go fuk a duck.

If you don’t understand the importance of this designation of terminology especially with all the craziness going on then fuk another duck.

Again refer to the OP downvotes, you’d be forced to fuk a duck in a democracy. That brainwashing got a hold on some of you, shake it off, like a duck shakes of water.
This post was edited on 10/11/24 at 7:54 am
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
86407 posts
Posted on 10/11/24 at 7:49 am to
We are a republic because of our constitution. We are not to be governed on the whims of someone different every four years.


You democrats hate the electoral college and the constitution.


That’s the only reason this shite gets brought up.



The pledge of allegiance is to the flag and the republic. The argument against the pledge is based on us being a constitutional republic with the right to dissent and forcing students to recite the pledge is against the first amendment.


So it’s funny that the left used we are a constitutional republic on why you shouldn't have to recite the pledge of allegiance in school. That under God part gets them in a tizzy.




This post was edited on 10/11/24 at 7:57 am
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298305 posts
Posted on 10/11/24 at 7:50 am to

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if you understand democracy is simply and purely shadow oligarchy,


Or in communist circles, the rule of the vanguard. They still call it "Our Democracy" though.

Posted by Gaggle
Member since Oct 2021
7286 posts
Posted on 10/11/24 at 7:50 am to
And altering the perception of "democracy" referring to our government as purely a democracy has resulted in this. People want more direct democracy, they want to get rid of the electoral college. They think democracy is good, more democracy is better. That's why the distinction is very important. Of course "they" understand that.
Posted by Lsupimp
Ersatz Amerika-97.6% phony & fake
Member since Nov 2003
85542 posts
Posted on 10/11/24 at 7:53 am to
It is perfectly acceptable to say “ we are a democracy “ colloquially. Just expect to be corrected by those who insist on factual accuracy. Truth is, we all say democracy in conversation.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298305 posts
Posted on 10/11/24 at 7:54 am to
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And altering the perception of "democracy" referring to our government as purely a democracy has resulted in this.


This is what Democrats are doing. Their goal is a social democracy, where the lowest IQ among us decide issues. The Vanguard always keeps that from happening though.

This post was edited on 10/11/24 at 7:55 am
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