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re: Stephen Miller- administration considering suspending habeas corpus
Posted on 5/9/25 at 11:13 pm to oklahogjr
Posted on 5/9/25 at 11:13 pm to oklahogjr
quote:I'm not doing that. How are you giving away your rights?
I love giving away all my rights
quote:You know why, right?
so we can chase after immigrants
quote:
because we don't want to treat them as people
What does this mean? Are we torturing them?
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Posted on 5/9/25 at 11:15 pm to Cuz413
quote:Why isn't this happening already?
100% they will use the power of the State to abuse people as they see fit all the while claiming said people were a threat to others
Posted on 5/9/25 at 11:16 pm to Warrior Court
quote:Are they illegals?
Trump's administration detaining whoever they want under the suspension of habeas corpus including journalists and judges who they don't agree with and scientists, doctors and education officials
Posted on 5/9/25 at 11:16 pm to somethingdifferent
quote:
Why isn't this already happening? Why would they have to wait?
The idea that, if they haven't done it yet, they will never do it in the future might be the most naively optimistic view of government I've seen publicly expressed in a long time.
Who are you people, and what have you done with the conservatives?
Posted on 5/9/25 at 11:21 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:You support illegals in the country?
The threat of that ignorant
quote:The mandate being carried out by duly elected officials is PRECISELY what the majority of voters elected them to do. It is not "mob mentality." It's the constitutional representative republic working exactly as designed
mob mentality
Posted on 5/9/25 at 11:23 pm to Bunk Moreland
quote:You're right. Getting rid of illegals would be insanely awesome if Dems did that. It would be a miracle to be celebrated
This place would be going bonkers if a Dem did this shite
Posted on 5/9/25 at 11:28 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:You're not fooling anyone with this small govt act. Trump did NOTHING like that in his first term and hasn't started to do anything like that yet. Getting rid of illegals is exactly what he was hired to do and he recognizes that we were on an unsustainable path
some people were against bigger government consistently and remain so across the board
Hey small govt expert, how do you feel about Trump allowing DOGE to slash fedgov jobs in huge numbers, cut funding, eliminate the DOE? You know, all that big govt fascist stuff he's been doing
oklahog has some of the stupidest takes on this board but you are absolutely without a doubt the biggest fraud
Posted on 5/9/25 at 11:31 pm to Bunk Moreland
quote:
power grabs
Not only has Trump been slashing the fedgov, now there are rumors he's going after congressional financial corruption, i.e. stripping them of their "power grabs" If Trump is about power grabs, he's the worst ever
Posted on 5/9/25 at 11:34 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:Why don't you cough up the video equivalent of Bryan's testimony since the story has "been around for 10 years"
You don't have the ability to understand the basics of what is actually being discussed, ITT
IOW, why don't you FINALLY actually back up one of your delusional assertions
Posted on 5/9/25 at 11:39 pm to somethingdifferent
quote:
If this is an "echo chamber" then how in the world are you posting your moronic statements?
They’re also the same ones who call us cult repeatedly for the past 9 years
Posted on 5/9/25 at 11:41 pm to mudshuvl05
quote:I can't even
mudshuvl05
quote:Is that person an illegal alien?
So now, if this stands, then a student — with or without a VISA— who, God forbid, speaks out against Israel, Ukraine, has a suppressor without proper paperwork, or does anything the government narrative doesn't approve of (remember: precedent) can have habeas corpus suspended by the supreme ruler?
quote:I'm asking the same thing about you. This issue is about ILLEGALS, NOT CITIZENS
What the actual FRICK is wrong with you people?
If you're going to respond that Trump is going to go authoritarian with this, I have 2 questions. First, why isn't that happening already? There's nothing to stop him from trying. Second, why is he cutting the size of fedgov, cutting funding, cutting government influence, etc? If he's going authoritarian, he's horrible at it
Posted on 5/9/25 at 11:44 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:Only if you use an artificially narrow definition of the word, such as invasion has to be one country/foreign power/officially recognized govt making a federal attempt to create incursion into the US.
we're not being invaded
Thankfully, normal, sane people know that's not the case
And btw, it has been proven that there is a concerted effort to breach our borders
Posted on 5/9/25 at 11:49 pm to Chancellor
quote:Easily proven wrong. Many people on this board are still unhappy that he signed the spending bill in his first term.
If Donald Trump said every male ought to be a fig, every goddamn one of them would have a cock in their mouth before the clock strikes midnight
You are factually incorrect on this characterization and if you want to not be so stupid, you can come to grips with your mistaken perception. Trump followers do not agree with him on everything because they can think for themselves. The left OTOH, goes so far in groupthink as to have gay people rallying in support of FREAKING HAMAS. There isn't a level of brainwashed greater than that.
Posted on 5/9/25 at 11:52 pm to northshorebamaman
quote:Again, easily proven false
They cheerlead any move even hinted at by this admin as a wonderful idea
quote:Are you saying the dems are going to start DEPORTING illegals instead of IMPORTING them?? I would be completely in favor of that
seemingly zero thought about how they can fall victim to the same policy when the dems return to power
Posted on 5/9/25 at 11:56 pm to Bunk Moreland
quote:I'm having trouble thinking of a scenario where I would be opposed to this, provided it's temporary.
I just shudder to think of President AOC making the call on what is an invasion, emergency, or who is a terrorist or gang member. Or Secretary of State Hilldawg throwing out people for the same reasons Little Marco is.
One thing people are missing is that if Trump were to do this, it would be cheered at first. But if this looked like there was no finish line, he would absolutely start to lose support and there's no way he doesn't know this
Posted on 5/10/25 at 12:08 am to northshorebamaman
quote:The patriot act has been abused. It was right to support it in it's purest form. Interesting that the people who abused it (deepstate) are now being opposed by the people you are criticizing. But don't mention that.
you are the same people who told me if I wasn't a terrorist, I had nothing to fear from the Patriot Act
quote:Who was the democrat alternative?
I understand you're the same people who had McCain's balls in your mouth in '08
quote:Name one
I understand you're the same people who burned Obama in effigy at rallies during your "Tea Party" phase but collectively lost your goddamn minds when a washed-up comedienne did that picture with Trump's head
quote:
I understand that you have no morals
It's the left who believes in moral relativism, not the right. quote:Wow. You are describing the left and attributing it to the right. I'll say this again, gay people are demonstrating for HAMAS. You can't get any more screwed up than that. Pornography in elementary school libraries. Hormone blockers behind parents' backs. Sanctuary cities. Assisting illegals against ICE. Arranging USAID money to NGOs to facilitate mass illegal invasion ostensibly to create a permanent voting bloc. Continuing to cheer on and fund the Ukraine/Russia conflict. Looking the other way in the Hunter Biden case. Actively hiding Biden's blatantly obvious decline. 8 years of unprecedented lawfare against Trump. Using govt to collude with big tech/big pharma to mislead americans. I could go on.
I understand that you have no actual principles or ethics beyond "own the libs."
quote:Examples? Would this be like when the dems were decrying voting machine vulnerabilities for 20 years and then suddenly reversing course for the most secure election ever?
the few times you've been right, you reversed course when your next hero told you to
quote:Examples?
they support undermining their own freedoms
You need to completely rethink your worldview and have your head examined
Posted on 5/10/25 at 12:17 am to somethingdifferent
He’s a trashy loon. It’s pretty pathetic he’s so triggered by Trump and those who support him.
Posted on 5/10/25 at 12:25 am to Wolfhound45
What, like sending people back to their countries of origin? Lincoln got killed before he could do it.
This post was edited on 5/10/25 at 12:31 am
Posted on 5/10/25 at 12:26 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:And this is absolutely sufficient proof that SFP is not right in the head. No rational person would think 20 million illegals in 3 years is not an invasion, particularly when it appears that govt money paid NGOs to facilitate the activity. Americans have been on the ground in Columbia documenting the process. Spoken to migrants.
We are being invaded
meh
But I suppose you think 20 million impoverished people miraculously pulled themselves up by their own bootstraps and organically crossed the Darien gap, traversed hundreds of miles with extremely fortuitous transportation, were inexplicably allowed to cross national borders, somehow fed themselves on the journey, showed up at the border with mobile phones so that they can download the CBP app and knew exactly what to say to game the system and be released into the US.
quote:already addressed ITT
Here is text of the originating case
You keep posting things that have already been refuted
quote:You keep acting like you and the courts are on the same side and the correct side. You are wrong
melt when the illegality is ruled as such by courts
This post was edited on 5/10/25 at 12:32 am
Posted on 5/10/25 at 12:30 am to northshorebamaman
quote:Not that I said anything like that. I've explained the situation pretty clearly but people like you want to keep conflating all sorts of things
The idea that, if they haven't done it yet, they will never do it in the future
quote:When they deport a legal citizen, then I will be EXTREMELY concerned.
might be the most naively optimistic view of government
quote:It's insane that you think supporting national, sovereign borders and not wasting tax money on illegals and preventing crimes on citizens is somehow un-conservative.
what have you done with the conservatives?
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