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re: Speech from American History X (1998) and its relevance to 2016 Election
Posted on 4/3/17 at 4:41 pm to Dead End
Posted on 4/3/17 at 4:41 pm to Dead End
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He explained it to you and it still went over your head
He explained that what mattered was the content, but the actual content has racial undertones. Skinheads don't care about the economy and will use any political agenda to further their own interests. Sort of how some "green" businesses push for clean air initiatives because it benefits their business.
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Posted on 4/3/17 at 4:41 pm to Texas Weazel
I don't know what the creators' objective was.
But my takeaway from AHX is that there is a pretty thin line between understandable anger and frustration and a mindset of demonization that can take disturbing control of once-reasonable people.
I think it comes down to whether a person can continue to take a contemplative approach to the issues they see around them, even if it sometimes involves asking some questions of racial groups, or whether you're going to fall victim to a mindset of demonizing a group of people. In the latter case, you'll usually find some fair grievances are quickly combined with some not-so-fair ones, to which are usually added some outlandish ones. That's typically how it works with scapegoating.
But my takeaway from AHX is that there is a pretty thin line between understandable anger and frustration and a mindset of demonization that can take disturbing control of once-reasonable people.
I think it comes down to whether a person can continue to take a contemplative approach to the issues they see around them, even if it sometimes involves asking some questions of racial groups, or whether you're going to fall victim to a mindset of demonizing a group of people. In the latter case, you'll usually find some fair grievances are quickly combined with some not-so-fair ones, to which are usually added some outlandish ones. That's typically how it works with scapegoating.
Posted on 4/3/17 at 4:42 pm to Pettifogger
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But my takeaway from AHX is that there is a pretty thin line between understandable anger and frustration and a mindset of demonization that can take disturbing control of once-reasonable people.
Agreed.
See the left in relation to White Males.
Posted on 4/3/17 at 4:47 pm to ShortyRob
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See the left in relation to White Males.
Maybe. Although I think it's tougher to target powerful groups in any real way. I'm a white male, and I probably feel a lot of what you feel about being loathed by the far left. But other than not getting a leg up in law school admission, it probably doesn't impact me much.
I'm not wading into the "can you be racist if you're not in power" bullshite, but I think the near term danger of demonizing a pretty powerful group is lower than when a group in power demonizes a minority group.
Posted on 4/3/17 at 4:50 pm to Pettifogger
quote:Meh.
Maybe. Although I think it's tougher to target powerful groups in any real way.
There are many powerful groups. You target one with the other.
quote:I was merely responding to the derangement described in what I quoted from you.
I'm a white male, and I probably feel a lot of what you feel about being loathed by the far left. But other than not getting a leg up in law school admission, it probably doesn't impact me much.
quote:Near term isn't the concern.
I'm not wading into the "can you be racist if you're not in power" bullshite, but I think the near term danger of demonizing a pretty powerful group is lower than when a group in power demonizes a minority group
You have a party that is flat out BUILT at this point on the concept of revenge politics.
It will only get incrementally worse.
When it reaches the tipping point, it will be waaaaaaay too late.
Posted on 4/3/17 at 4:55 pm to ShortyRob
I'm not going to chastise the left for revenge politics when we put people like Bannon in the WH.
Ultimately, I think anger toward white males is largely a class-based hatred. Poor white people hating poor people of color isn't, and is more relevant to what we're talking about here.
I'm not going to fault you for pointing out the animosity toward us, I just don't know that it fits in the mold I'm describing.
Ultimately, I think anger toward white males is largely a class-based hatred. Poor white people hating poor people of color isn't, and is more relevant to what we're talking about here.
I'm not going to fault you for pointing out the animosity toward us, I just don't know that it fits in the mold I'm describing.
Posted on 4/3/17 at 4:57 pm to Texas Weazel
If it doesn't work why are you so opposed to the free market which will determine that?
Answer: you have no morals. The ground you stand on shifts like the wind.
Answer: you have no morals. The ground you stand on shifts like the wind.
Posted on 4/3/17 at 9:14 pm to BigEdLSU
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If it doesn't work why are you so opposed to the free market which will determine that?
Go look up what free market means!
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