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re: Space Force and novel energy production sources / transit (Paradigm changing)

Posted on 12/14/19 at 10:35 am to
Posted by ThinePreparedAni
In a sea of cognitive dissonance
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Posted on 12/14/19 at 10:35 am to
Reminder from Trump inauguration speech...



quote:

We stand at the birth of a new millennium, ready to unlock the mysteries of space, to free the earth from the miseries of disease, and to harness the energies, industries and technologies of tomorrow.


Unlock implies a release of sorts...
Posted by ItNeverRains
Offugeaux
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 12/14/19 at 10:36 am to
Listened to that whole video this morning. Cliff notes.

Space is a trillion dollar untapped economy with the technology to exploit it currently available. China is racing towards being the leader of that economy. USA is fighting over petulant shite and too stupid to realize what’s out there. If you want your kids speaking Chinese, carry on.
Posted by CitizenK
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Posted on 12/14/19 at 11:04 am to
He never says it was proven. In my work I deal with pipe dream technology all the fricking time. I am supplying the equipment actually making GTL affordable (it is great for making wax and lube oil is about all that it is cost effective in producing) at a demonstration plant in Texas. It sure looks good.

HOW FRICKNG EVER, I have made money from selling off equipment from game changer process technologies where it worked in theoretical studies, worked in the lab, worked in small demonstration plant but didn't work with a frick at full scale and no engineer could figure out why. Often times these new game changer technologies were a disaster because at commercial scale they produced haz waste never seen in any studies or demonstrations, and lots of it.
Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 12/14/19 at 11:07 am to
COLD FUSION WORKS BUT THE OIL COMPANIES DON'T WANT YOU TO KNOW IT!!!!
Posted by Stingray
Shreveport
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Posted on 12/14/19 at 11:09 am to
Anywhere in one hour? SARS finna eat.
Posted by CitizenK
BR
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Posted on 12/14/19 at 11:10 am to
You must be a millennial or a conspiracy junkie, maybe both
Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 12/14/19 at 11:12 am to
quote:

You must be a millennial or a conspiracy junkie, maybe both


If you can't see the sarcasm in that, I don't know how to help you
Posted by CitizenK
BR
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Posted on 12/14/19 at 11:12 am to
Bush said Switch Grass in his state of the union speech one year. All those pilot plants have been torn down. it doesn't work

A client of mine touted their use of bioderived PVC for two years, almost a decade ago. They ain't saying shite now because it ain't worth crap. They are a multinational.
This post was edited on 12/14/19 at 11:16 am
Posted by CitizenK
BR
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Posted on 12/14/19 at 11:14 am to
Lots of people believe this crap. My error
Posted by LookSquirrel
Old Millville
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Posted on 12/14/19 at 11:20 am to
When I was with the DOE, back in 2003, I think it was, I was doing some unrelated work at Sandia Labs. This guy there let me "play" with this, I'll say computer for lack of a better word. It was just a pair of regular eye glasses and yet when I wore them I could see the screen in the corner of my eye. Clear as day. Wonder whatever happened to that idea. I have other little antidotes like that too.
Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 12/14/19 at 11:24 am to
Google glasses died a few years ago
Posted by ThinePreparedAni
In a sea of cognitive dissonance
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Posted on 12/14/19 at 11:26 am to
quote:

He never says it was proven. In my work I deal with pipe dream technology all the fricking time. I am supplying the equipment actually making GTL affordable (it is great for making wax and lube oil is about all that it is cost effective in producing) at a demonstration plant in Texas. It sure looks good.


I understand your skepticism, but this is all in the background of:

The government/Navy acknowledging unexplained aerial phenomena (origin unclear) that is defying the known, classical physics model

And

Congress/military seeking to declassify black space projects

I have many threads documenting this contextual support. Not to my surprise, they all appear to be converging

We are beyond the “proof of concept” and testing phases (in the black world). We are perhaps at the “rolling it out” phase
Posted by CitizenK
BR
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Posted on 12/14/19 at 11:27 am to
I handled liquidation of a flat panel manufacturing plant for a subsidiary of Dow Chemical, Intarsia, in 2002. I was not allowed to sell anything to Arizona State because Dow was backing UT Arlington in flexible flat panel screens for military so they would provide the chemicals. Being a 1990's manufacturing line it was pilot plant scale by today's standards so those components were only applicable for pilot studies. They didn't sell to anyone. We lost the contract with Dow globally in 2003 and in 2004 ASU won the contract with DoD. They ended up buying those components directly from Dow.
Posted by CitizenK
BR
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Posted on 12/14/19 at 11:32 am to
I've heard it all before in private industry. Both government and private industry are large bureaucracies.

No different than the REG biodiesel plant in Geismar. Everyone hollered that Obama was making the Navy buy its jet fuel at $30 per gallon or somesuch. The fact is that it was funded after letter of intent by Rumsfeld, and ground broken just before the 2008 election.

it makes fuel out of pig fat. This is a direct threat to certain nations and holy sites if used for jets flying overhead, they would be considered desecrated forever.
Posted by viceman
Huntsville, AL
Member since Aug 2016
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Posted on 12/14/19 at 11:40 am to
quote:

In some of my mainstream reading there have been rumblings about making Huntsville the base of operations for the Space Force


We are on the short list, but I think Salt Lake City is the favorite with it being an Air Force division. No matter which city it is based, a lot of the research will be done in Huntsville.
This post was edited on 12/14/19 at 11:42 am
Posted by CitizenK
BR
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Posted on 12/14/19 at 11:44 am to
The really interesting part of handling that liquidation was that I found out that most of the manufacturing processes for flat screens and computers came from the petrochemical industry. Their research showed that they could make certain chemicals from by products but had no market for them. So they developed a lot of the processes in "tech" so there would be a market, a very profitable market at that.

Dow had purchased the flat panel line in the late 90's which had been among the first in Silicon Valley, as production in larger plants had moved overseas, it had served as a training center for Korean engineers who Dow purchased it from. They were going to make simm chips and phone screens but were a couple of months late getting to market and lost market share. They were going to make a lot of money selling chemicals made in labs in Midland, MI, far more than the $50 million the lost in the venture so it wasn't a big deal to them.
Posted by ThinePreparedAni
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Posted on 12/16/19 at 4:39 pm to
Adding here to make an important point

The inventor credited with the patent is Salvatore Pais. He is also credited with a patent for a revolutionary superconductor

The thing is that no one can track him down/confirm his existence

Salvatore Pais literally means savior of the country...
Sound familiar to anyone here???


Enjoy the show folks!!!

https://www.tigerdroppings.com/rant/politics/ny-times-pentagons-ufo-program---aerospace-esoteric-quantum-mechanics-pg25-update/74223344/page-24/

Interesting as this site has been pushing that UAPs are radical new tech
The article, however, vacillates throughout...

https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/29232/navys-advanced-aerospace-tech-boss-claims-key-ufo-patent-is-operable

quote:

Navy's Advanced Aerospace Tech Boss Claims Key 'UFO' Patent Is Operable

Navy officials claim their radical electromagnetic and superconductor technologies aren't theoretical, they’re already operable in some form.

BY BRETT TINGLEY
AUGUST 2, 2019


quote:

Last month, The War Zone reported on a series of strange patent applications the U.S. Navy has filed over the last few years and questioned what their connections may be with the ongoing saga of Navy personnel reporting incidents involving unidentified objects in or near U.S. airspace.

We have several active Freedom of Information Act requests with the Department of Navy to pursue more information related to the research that led to these patents. As those are being processed, we've continued to dig through the U.S. Patent and Trademark Office's (USPTO) Public Patent Application Information Retrieval database to get as much context for these patents as possible.


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In doing so, we came across documents that seem to suggest, at least by the Navy's own claims, that two highly peculiar Navy patents, the room temperature superconductor (RTSC) and the high-energy electromagnetic field generator (HEEMFG), may in fact already be in operation in some manner. The inventor of the Navy's most bizarre patent, the straight-out-of-science fiction-sounding hybrid aerospace/underwater craft, describes that craft as leveraging the same room temperature superconductor technology and high energy electromagnetic fields to enable its unbelievable speed and maneuverability. If those two technologies are already operable as the Navy claims, could this mean the hybrid craft may also already operable or close to operable? Or is this just more evidence that the whole exotic 'UFO' patent endeavor on the Navy's behalf is some sort of ruse or even gross mismanagement of resources?


quote:

All of these technologies - the room temperature superconductor, the high-energy electromagnetic field generator, and the hybrid aerospace/underwater craft (HUAC) - are inventions of the same NAWCAD aerospace engineer, the aforementioned Salvatore Cezar Pais. Our previous article on the Navy’s patents explored the hybrid craft and whether or not it could be related to other developments such as Navy pilots reporting strange objects in U.S. airspace during training exercises and members of Congress now asking for answers on UFOs.


Here is where things get really interesting...

quote:

In the patent for the HEEMFG, the technology is described as being able to create what is essentially a force field straight out of science fiction, one that could generate “an impenetrable defensive shield to sea and land as well as space-based military and civilian assets, protecting these assets from such threats as Anti-Ship Ballistic Missiles, Radar Evading Cruise Missiles, Top Attack for Main Battle Tanks (land and sea-based systems), as well as counteracting the effects of solar-induced Coronal Mass Ejections or defending critical military satellites in an ASAT [anti-satellite] role (space based system).”


quote:

In his presentation at the 2019 AIAA SciTech Forum, Pais claims that this device could even serve as an optimal asteroid deflector to save the world from 99942 Apophis, a 370-meter diameter near-Earth asteroid which has been predicted to come dangerously close to our planet in 2029 and 2036.


quote:

While saving the world from a massive asteroid is without a doubt a worthwhile application of this alleged high energy electromagnetic field generator, the military applications of this supposed technology would give a paradigm-exploding advantage to any military wielding such an impenetrable electromagnetic force field. Is it only a hypothetical technology, though? The inventor and his attorney assured the patent office it is indeed operable, at least to some degree.

Posted by Pecker
Rocky Top
Member since May 2015
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Posted on 12/16/19 at 5:42 pm to
quote:

I am linking “disparate” themes to those who can see (or who refuse to see)

All of these threads are to show that all paths lead to the same place

These threads are ledgers for reference (to assist people). I post some things outside the Q thread due to some who have disdain for it. Occasionally I feel a topic merits its own thread

Am I again being accused of promoting my non-existent website???



I support your right to start as many threads as you'd like on whatever topics you choose.

There's a good chance I will laugh at you, but that is neither here nor there.
Posted by Clames
Member since Oct 2010
19532 posts
Posted on 12/16/19 at 6:16 pm to
quote:

How in the hell would you know this? You don't. So why speak about it authoritatively?


Because I have an excellent education where a fundamental understanding of Thermodynamics was a core requirement. People like you, the OP, and millions of others have such a miserable grasp of grade-scool level physical science that it makes you easy targets for claims that seem plausible at the surface yet don't stand up to basic scrutiny. It's a terrible phenomenon that is only getting worse, when even an institution with top quality engineering and scientific credentials like UC Berkley, is duped into supporting project like WaterSeer. Basic scrutiny and healthy scepticism have been set aside to be the next "disrupter". It's not bizarre, it's simply applying fundamental concepts, which you and many others lack.
Posted by BoarEd
The Hills
Member since Oct 2015
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Posted on 12/16/19 at 6:25 pm to
Your entire post is an emotive appeal to authority that has no bearing on this discussion. Not much different than Mr Flat Screen guy up above. I also notice you are using this thread to slide the main board.

Go frick yourself, pal.
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