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re: Sky Screamers Rejoice! Senate votes to repeal the repeal of Net Neutrality

Posted on 5/17/18 at 12:38 pm to
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 5/17/18 at 12:38 pm to
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ummm, the internet isnt just what you see on your browser.


Exactly, and the ISP is the gate keeper to ALL OF IT!

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source: someone who uses the internet for what it was originally designed for, institutional transfer of scientific data.


Universities using it for that purpose still have to contract with ISPs in order to send, receive, and host the data.

Posted by Breesus
House of the Rising Sun
Member since Jan 2010
69376 posts
Posted on 5/17/18 at 12:42 pm to
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someone who uses the internet for what it was originally designed for, institutional transfer of scientific data.



And if the ISPs decide to limit or ban certain institutions access to that data?
Posted by CptBengal
BR Baby
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 5/17/18 at 12:58 pm to
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Exactly, and the ISP is the gate keeper to ALL OF IT!




and you want to limit the ISPs to the current monopolies!

brilliant!



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Universities using it for that purpose still have to contract with ISPs in order to send, receive, and host the data.





youre an idiot. Most universities are on trunk lines and do not use corporations to handle the data.
Posted by CptBengal
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Posted on 5/17/18 at 12:59 pm to
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And if the ISPs decide to limit or ban certain institutions access to that data?



we dont use an ISP.

holy shite, you people are so simplistic thinking. I do love you lawyers.

experts on everything, even though you do personal injury suits.
Posted by Seldom Seen
Member since Feb 2016
48737 posts
Posted on 5/17/18 at 1:00 pm to
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Doesn't Trump have to sign it?



And the House has to pass it.




Good thing we have checks and balances and the commie senate can't just do whatever they want.
Posted by Breesus
House of the Rising Sun
Member since Jan 2010
69376 posts
Posted on 5/17/18 at 1:00 pm to
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and you want to limit the ISPs to the current monopolies!


Who wants to do this?

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Most universities are on trunk lines and do not use corporations to handle the data


What universities use completely private closed internet connections for only the transfer of research that has absolutely no reliance on ISPs?
Posted by CptBengal
BR Baby
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 5/17/18 at 1:02 pm to
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What universities use completely private closed internet connections for only the transfer of research that has absolutely no reliance on ISPs?


most T1 institutions.

you dont even know how the internet was started...but want to tell me about ISPs.
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
69180 posts
Posted on 5/17/18 at 1:04 pm to
So you’re saying that because they already have their own parallel system, f$&k everyone else?
Posted by Breesus
House of the Rising Sun
Member since Jan 2010
69376 posts
Posted on 5/17/18 at 1:05 pm to
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most T1 institutions.

you dont even know how the internet was started...but want to tell me about ISPs.


You're talking about within the same campus or between different universities?

This has absolutely nothing to do with a private intracampus network. Why would you even bring that up?
This post was edited on 5/17/18 at 1:07 pm
Posted by CptBengal
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Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 5/17/18 at 1:06 pm to
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Your talking about within the same campus or between different universities?




between universities too.

keep trying. We can go into the finer points of how networks are configured and how the internet is structured physically if you want...
Posted by CptBengal
BR Baby
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 5/17/18 at 1:07 pm to
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This has absolutely nothing to do with a private intracampus network. Why would you even bring that up?





you;re so far out of depth right now it's hilarious.
Posted by SoulGlo
Shinin' Through
Member since Dec 2011
17248 posts
Posted on 5/17/18 at 1:07 pm to
My cable and internet bill is nearly half of what it was before i switched providers. I have four to choose from, and i live on the edge of the desert... 3 miles from even the nearest gas station. My ISP/cable provider stops at the county line. They service the county I live in. They do not service the neighboring county.

I'll give you NN tards one guess as to why that is. Hint... It has nothing to do with lack of infrastructure and cost to run lines.

Yet you people want to expand this bullshite to the national level.
Posted by MC123
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
2042 posts
Posted on 5/17/18 at 1:18 pm to
Go back to Title I with rules restricting ISPs from blocking, censoring, throttling or allowing paid prioritization and everyone wins.

Ya know the same way it was from 2002-2015
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
293233 posts
Posted on 5/17/18 at 1:31 pm to
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The thing is, unlike ISP's, there are lots of competing grocers in a given geographical area.


Seems to me your issue is monopolies or virtual monopolies. Why not bust them instead of keeping them and highly regulating? Title II is not going to solve that problem
This post was edited on 5/17/18 at 1:31 pm
Posted by Breesus
House of the Rising Sun
Member since Jan 2010
69376 posts
Posted on 5/17/18 at 1:40 pm to
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Why not bust them instead of keeping them and highly regulating?


Who is advocating for keeping monopolies? How does net neutrality in any way at all keep or protect those monopolies?
Posted by Breesus
House of the Rising Sun
Member since Jan 2010
69376 posts
Posted on 5/17/18 at 1:42 pm to
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I'll give you NN tards one guess as to why that is. Hint... It has nothing to do with lack of infrastructure and cost to run lines.


How does it relate to net neutrality?
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 5/17/18 at 1:45 pm to
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keep trying. We can go into the finer points of how networks are configured and how the internet is structured physically if you want...

Why not?

I mean, he's got no economics education and that hasn't stopped him at all!
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
293233 posts
Posted on 5/17/18 at 1:50 pm to
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Who is advocating for keeping monopolies?


NN does nothing to change the existing structure. It just regulates it
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 5/17/18 at 1:55 pm to
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NN does nothing to change the existing structure. It just regulates it



Yup

Simply eliminate existing government caused monopolies and step the frick back.

And no. I can't guarantee that nothing the sky screamers think might happen won't occur.

Markets are never smooth. That's why liberals suck at markets. They want to make them smooth which is literally trying to fix a feature because they're too stupid to recognize it's a feature.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
293233 posts
Posted on 5/17/18 at 1:56 pm to
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Simply eliminate existing government caused monopolies and step the frick back.


It's the Ole fix govt frickups with more govt.
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