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re: Simple question: Why is Ukraine’s border more important than ours?
Posted on 4/18/24 at 12:49 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
Posted on 4/18/24 at 12:49 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
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This is what I responded to:
That wasn't me who made that comment. I think you are getting my posts and Lightning's posts conflated ITT.
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You’re just being hysterical.
And I'm really not. Our government has misplaced priorities.
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Our southern border has nothing whatsoever to do with Ukraine. Your desire to conflate the two just exposes your agenda.
I agree that they are not inherently related. One is massively more important than the other. And wasting resources overseas whenever there are big problems to address at home is bad policy.
This post was edited on 4/18/24 at 12:52 pm
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Posted on 4/18/24 at 12:54 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
and the Senate is sitting on the House version of an immigration bill.
Hell - having Biden re-instate Trump's policies would be a massive improvement of the current CF...
Hell - having Biden re-instate Trump's policies would be a massive improvement of the current CF...
Posted on 4/18/24 at 12:57 pm to Indefatigable
Okay, here:
You’re going to have to define “it” in the context of international law that our Congress has approved making it the law of our land. Specifically laws regarding those people crossing international borders seeking asylum.
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Well the total lack of addressing it
You’re going to have to define “it” in the context of international law that our Congress has approved making it the law of our land. Specifically laws regarding those people crossing international borders seeking asylum.
Posted on 4/18/24 at 12:58 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
Is it legal to cross the border 12 countries away to seek asylum?
You people can frick off with the asylum bullshite.
You people can frick off with the asylum bullshite.
Posted on 4/18/24 at 12:59 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
Let's see. The "border bill" was pushed by biden/schumer and other politicians as the solution to the emergency at the southern border. When it failed, those same politicians went straight to a Ukraine funding bill, completely ignoring the southern border. Had the southern border been more important, they likely would have went straight to a "southern border" bill...
Posted on 4/18/24 at 1:01 pm to roadGator
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Is it legal to cross the border 12 countries away to seek asylum?
The first step is to determine that they, indeed, came from 12 countries away. Only then can you determine their legal status.
Posted on 4/18/24 at 1:01 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
Specific to asylum-seekers, reinstating the Remain in Mexico policy would be a start.
But the "it" is broader than that. The willful admittance of illegals into the country at and between ports of entry is something that Congress absolutely can address. It is something the WH and DHS can also absolutely address. Instead, illegal crossings are incentivized.
To the extent that any of the foregoing doesn't comply with whatever international law has been incorporated into our domestic law, that can also be addressed. It isn't, because it is politically expedient to continue allowing the problem to continue unabated.
But the "it" is broader than that. The willful admittance of illegals into the country at and between ports of entry is something that Congress absolutely can address. It is something the WH and DHS can also absolutely address. Instead, illegal crossings are incentivized.
To the extent that any of the foregoing doesn't comply with whatever international law has been incorporated into our domestic law, that can also be addressed. It isn't, because it is politically expedient to continue allowing the problem to continue unabated.
Posted on 4/18/24 at 1:03 pm to TigersnJeeps
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Hell - having Biden re-instate Trump's policies would be a massive improvement of the current CF...
I seem to recall Biden continuing Trump’s COVID policies on the border ad long as he could. Maybe not, though.
Posted on 4/18/24 at 1:04 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
It wouldn’t matter. You can’t legally seek asylum by crossing illegally. I know that what you people want though.
Posted on 4/18/24 at 1:06 pm to roadGator
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You can’t legally seek asylum by crossing illegally.
Ah, the old trick bag. It’s not illegal if you’re seeking asylum.
Posted on 4/18/24 at 1:09 pm to Indefatigable
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Specific to asylum-seekers, reinstating the Remain in Mexico policy would be a start. But the "it" is broader than that. The willful admittance of illegals into the country at and between ports of entry is something that Congress absolutely can address. It is something the WH and DHS can also absolutely address. Instead, illegal crossings are incentivized. To the extent that any of the foregoing doesn't comply with whatever international law has been incorporated into our domestic law, that can also be addressed. It isn't, because it is politically expedient to continue allowing the problem to continue unabated.
See how none of that has anything to do with Ukraine?
Posted on 4/18/24 at 1:19 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
Sure it is. You just don’t like it.
Posted on 4/18/24 at 1:20 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
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See how none of that has anything to do with Ukraine?
I've already said that the issues are not inherently linked in a vacuum.
However, addressing those things in large part will require funding, no? Funding that is being lit on fire by shipping it overseas.
That is bad policy.
This post was edited on 4/18/24 at 1:21 pm
Posted on 4/18/24 at 1:34 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
quote:Your "recaller" would be incorrect. Biden did away with pretty much every executive order that Trump had implemented.
I seem to recall Biden continuing Trump’s COVID policies on the border ad long as he could. Maybe not, though.
Posted on 4/18/24 at 1:50 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
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There’s a straw man that doesn’t address my post…
bullshite. Your attempt to pin the border issues on Republicans is laughable and disingenuous. The Biden admin needs to just enforce the laws on the books and the border wouldn’t be a crisis anymore. How can you possibly be against that? How is the Biden admins refusal to enforce current law the Republicans fault?
Posted on 4/18/24 at 1:53 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
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You’re going to have to define “it” in the context of international law that our Congress has approved making it the law of our land. Specifically laws regarding those people crossing international borders seeking asylum.
I love it. Why isn’t the Biden admin detaining those who seek asylum. That is perfectly legal and would act as a huge deterrent to the flood coming across the border. As I said…enforce the current laws.
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