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re: Should teachers be paid on student performance?

Posted on 5/4/21 at 4:37 pm to
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 5/4/21 at 4:37 pm to
Teachers are already paid based on student performance... So I'm not sure why this is a thread unless you want the pay based solely on student performance. Then are you using student growth or will you use one standard test?
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
161244 posts
Posted on 5/4/21 at 4:41 pm to
What?
Teacher Loan Forgiveness can range from 17k to as little as 5k. That's from Navient, I taught for 6 years at a lower-income school but because I was not Math or Science and only Middle School I got 7.5k forgiven.
Posted by BCBAMA
Southeast Alabama
Member since Apr 2016
837 posts
Posted on 5/4/21 at 4:43 pm to
You are totally off base. Teachers have no control over how little or how much parents in the child’s home place an emphasis on the importance of education.
Posted by starkvingrad
Florida
Member since Apr 2021
5837 posts
Posted on 5/4/21 at 4:46 pm to
It is unhealthy for the youth...
Posted by bigcatfish
Member since Feb 2009
1282 posts
Posted on 5/4/21 at 4:50 pm to
They are cooking/manipulating numbers now.
Posted by Shamoan
Member since Feb 2019
9216 posts
Posted on 5/4/21 at 4:53 pm to
my wife is a teacher that teaches sped kids. some of these children are completely hopeless. its sad, but effort is a better measuring stick on a lot of them unfortunately. some just dont have the capacity.
Posted by Bulldogblitz
In my house
Member since Dec 2018
26783 posts
Posted on 5/4/21 at 4:54 pm to
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my wife is a teacher


Pics...in class would be good.
Posted by BigJim
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2010
14499 posts
Posted on 5/4/21 at 4:55 pm to
quote:

You are totally off base. Teachers have no control over how little or how much parents in the child’s home place an emphasis on the importance of education.


So teachers don't make a difference then?
Posted by NWLATigerFan12
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2011
11409 posts
Posted on 5/4/21 at 4:57 pm to
As a teacher myself, I wouldn't mind it IF

-students were actually held accountable and not just pushed through to the next grade regardless of performance for the sake of graduation rates.

-parents were somehow held accountable for their kids behavior when they refuse to put forth effort and are constantly disrupting the school environment.


But if students can do whatever they want and parents will allow them to do whatever they want, you won't see any drastic improvements any time soon.
Posted by BigJim
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2010
14499 posts
Posted on 5/4/21 at 4:58 pm to
quote:

my wife is a teacher that teaches sped kids. some of these children are completely hopeless. its sad, but effort is a better measuring stick on a lot of them unfortunately. some just dont have the capacity.


There are several types of teachers that would be tough to measure with "performance" standards. Special ed, PE, music and art teachers for example.

Perhaps the overall growth of scores in the school could serve as a proxy. If students are staying engaged in school because of PE or art, that should reflect well on the school overall.

Special ed is still different though.
Posted by gobuxgo5
Member since Nov 2012
10028 posts
Posted on 5/4/21 at 11:25 pm to
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It is unhealthy for the youth.


What is?
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