What the hell does having gay friends have to do with anything?

Your reasons are:

1. Adult
2. Doesn't concern me

Which have both been blown up and you made no reply to that.

3. i have gay friends.

Which is nothing. It's an appeal to "I have friends that ARE affected," which means it self-contradicts the justification you gave earlier for it not affecting you. It does affect you, just indirectly.

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Being moderate is not being milque toast.

Yeah, usually it is.

And for sure in this case. I was 100% right wasn't I? "If I avoid 'the extremes' then I'm being reasonable." Right?

Give me the logical syllogism for your position.

Major premise
Minor premis
Conclusion

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You obviously hate gay marriage but have given no reason for your stance. You just attack mine.

We haven't gotten past your positive assertion yet b/c you won't answer any questions and engage. That's your fault, not mine.

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Posted by wackatimesthree

Member since Oct 2019

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Posted on 9/14/25 at 12:30 pm to Auburn80

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You obviously hate gay marriage

It's obvious at this point that you are not going to engage in a dialogue on this subject (and we both know why).

So I'm going to say this last thing and then I'm out.

Nothing I have posted is about my feelings. I'm not the one posting things like, "I have gay friends," or, "It doesn't bother me."

Those are emotional arguments. I haven't posted any emotional arguments, nor am I posting because I "hate" gay marriage. Trying to get the word "hate" in there is a political tactic, although I do appreciate you not going full on disingenuous and claiming that I hate gay people.

I'm posting data and observations of trends and drawing conclusions from those. My conclusion, based on the data, history, and observations I have referenced throughout this thread—which, despite your claim, has been considerable—is that gay marriage is not good for society and our society is demonstrably worse off for having officially affirmed it.

I don't know if it's even possible to reverse it. I kind of doubt it from a legal standpoint (then again, people said that about Roe for 50 years).

So really I'm arguing against it from a cultural standpoint, which is the level upo which it does actual societal damage.

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Posted by Auburn80

Backwater, TN

Member since Nov 2017

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Posted on 9/14/25 at 3:15 pm to wackatimesthree

I haven’t seen your arguments in any response to me. You may have made them to someone else. You did call me milque toast which is not logical at all and would imply I’m something I’m not. So, no I don’t see you as completely logical and not emotional. Looking through your posts I noticed you like to argue and name call so this is my last post with you.

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Posted by UcobiaA

The Gump

Member since Nov 2010

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Posted on 9/14/25 at 8:32 pm to wackatimesthree

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Posted by wackatimesthree

Member since Oct 2019

10802 posts

Posted on 9/14/25 at 10:20 pm to Auburn80

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Looking through your posts I noticed you like to argue

This is a message board where people debate ideas.

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and name call

Yes. Like the entire rest of this site. Only I called you milquetoast which on the scale of name calling that happens regularly here rates about a .00000003 on. scale of 1 to 10.

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would imply I’m something I’m not.

So you DON'T equate being "moderate" with being "reasonable?"

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I haven’t seen your arguments in any response to me. You may have made them to someone else.

I made one to you, which you refused to acknowledge or engage (and again, we both know why). I made many more to people who would. That's not a coincidence.

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So, no I don’t see you

I never asked, nor do I care, "How you see me." I'm asking you to defend your assertions. Which you cannot do.

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so this is my last post with you.

We both know that the reason that this was your last post has nothing to do with me calling you the heinous slight "milquetoast." We both know what it really has to do with. And so does anybody reading.