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re: Senator Paul to Speak at Berkley
Posted on 3/12/14 at 4:27 pm to NHTIGER
Posted on 3/12/14 at 4:27 pm to NHTIGER
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It's a safe subject in a safe environment before a crowd that will be in full agreement with his position on the NSA and personal privacy.
I will venture to say the crowd will be split about 60/40. There will be some who will want to hear him but there will be the other who will show up and raise hell because the letter before his name is "R".
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Posted on 3/12/14 at 4:32 pm to yumahog
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I will venture to say the crowd will be split about 60/40. There will be some who will want to hear him but there will be the other who will show up and raise hell because the letter before his name is "R".
I hope there is security to remove those that raise hell because he is a republican and that rand just ignores those that are attacking him without substance.
Posted on 3/12/14 at 4:42 pm to NHTIGER
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He does, but this speaking engagement at Berkeley is not a particularly ballsy thing to do.
He is speaking on the NSA and Personal Privacy. This is one of the safest possible topics at an institution like Berkeley, where the NSA is looked upon with utter contempt.
If Rand goes to Berkeley and speaks on the second amendment, or the minimum wage, or extension of federal unemployment benefits, or repeal of Obamacare, or Benghazi, or the IRS' involvement in Tea Party groups, or the EPA, or climate change, or the Keystone pipeline, or deficit/debt reduction, or states' rights, etc. - THEN it would be meaningful.
It's a safe subject in a safe environment before a crowd that will be in full agreement with his position on the NSA and personal privacy.
But can you think of a successful politcian in the history of American politics who lead with his chin? Walter Mondale ran against Ronald Reagan in 1984 on a promise to raise taxes, but I wouldn't call getting routed 49 states to 1 a successful campaign.
EDIT: I also don't expect him to talk about cutting off aid to Israel, his support for a peace deal with Iran or pulling American troops out of the Mideast when he speaks at an AIPAC gathering either.
This post was edited on 3/12/14 at 4:47 pm
Posted on 3/12/14 at 4:51 pm to trackfan
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But can you think of a successful politcian in the history of American politics who lead with his chin? Walter Mondale ran against Ronald Reagan in 1984 on a promise to raise taxes, but I wouldn't call getting routed 49 states to 1 a successful campaign.
I think you have taken my post out of context.
I was neither criticizing Rand Paul nor suggesting that he put himself in adverserial no-win public positions.
My post simply addressed the contention that this particular speaking venue, on this particular topic, is an example of having "big balls" , which I said I do agree he possesses. This is a very safe environment and subject and I feel quite confident there will be no noteworthy disruptive protest activity.
Posted on 3/19/14 at 7:56 am to RollTide4Ever
Today Paul goes into the belly of the beast. Does anyone know if we'll be able to watch it live somewhere?
Posted on 3/19/14 at 8:02 am to trackfan
Not sure, but he should be streaming his speeches on his website.
Posted on 3/19/14 at 3:16 pm to Rickety Cricket
Posted on 3/19/14 at 3:22 pm to trackfan
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Today Paul goes into the belly of the beast. Does anyone know if we'll be able to watch it live somewhere?
Paul will focus on spying, foreign policy and minimum sentencing. Probably come out in favor of legalizing pot. If he is going after the hearts of the youth then he should stick to those topics.
Posted on 3/19/14 at 3:25 pm to TOKEN
He should toe the "states rights" line on pot. Don't want to lose the conservative base pandering to the pot-smoking hippies of Berkley.
Posted on 3/19/14 at 3:30 pm to NikolaiJakov
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He should toe the "states rights" line on pot. Don't want to lose the conservative base pandering to the pot-smoking hippies of Berkley.
Oh, he won't go big government on pot. He will bring it back to state rights at the end of the day to put a bow on the issue.
Posted on 3/19/14 at 4:10 pm to RollTide4Ever
You know that's where we developed most of our nukes, right?
Posted on 3/19/14 at 4:12 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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you have a complete misunderstanding of liberalism
you're right--he probably meant statist/leftist/progressofacists
Posted on 3/19/14 at 4:14 pm to Rickety Cricket
Odds of a pie in the face or hit with something?
Posted on 3/19/14 at 4:47 pm to Tigah in the ATL
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You know that's where we developed most of our nukes, right?
I know that Oppenheimer taught there and he was a card-carrying member of the Communist Party who couldn't have got a security clearance if we didn't desperately need him to build the first nuke.
Posted on 3/19/14 at 4:50 pm to Tigah in the ATL
And LSD. If RP tries LSD I will consider voting for him.
Posted on 3/19/14 at 4:57 pm to Tigah in the ATL
Don't forget LANL. We developed our fair share as well.
Posted on 3/19/14 at 5:06 pm to RollTide4Ever
Posted on 3/19/14 at 6:07 pm to NHTIGER
Doing great....
Posted on 3/19/14 at 6:15 pm to NHTIGER
It just finished. Got a huge hand when asked about a 2016 presidential run. Wearings jeans. Crowd was, just as I posted it would be, extremely friendly and supportive. Watched it live on CNN's website. All of the questions were highly predictable and Paul-friendly. He didn't make any controversial statements in his speech, nor in any of his answers in the Q-and-A period. Played it very safe. Said everything a Berkeley student would want to hear.
This is the music they played at the end as he walked off.
LINK
(Tubthumping - Chumbawamba)
This is the music they played at the end as he walked off.
LINK
(Tubthumping - Chumbawamba)
This post was edited on 3/19/14 at 6:19 pm
Posted on 3/19/14 at 6:18 pm to NikolaiJakov
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Don't want to lose the conservative base pandering to the pot-smoking hippies of Berkley.
I don't see too many cons viewing legalization as a dealbreaker.
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