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re: Satanists seek spot next to Ten Commandments monument on steps of OK's Statehous
Posted on 1/8/14 at 11:01 am to NC_Tigah
Posted on 1/8/14 at 11:01 am to NC_Tigah
quote:I don't live by them, I don't attempt to live by them. We as christians are not required and it is not even implied that we have to.
NC_Tigah
When I hear someone quote out of the old testament they are usually trying to control another person.
The old testament was written for Jews by Jews and it's nice to read and all but I don't live out of it.
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Posted on 1/8/14 at 11:08 am to Cruiserhog
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What...
You shall not make for yourself an idol, or any likeness of what is in heaven above or on the earth beneath or in the water under the earth. 5"You shall not worship them or serve them; for I, the LORD your God, am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers on the children, on the third and the fourth generations of those who hate Me, 6but showing lovingkindness to thousands, to those who love Me and keep My commandments.
so basically you were wrong and not only is God jealous but he is vindictive.
perfect being....too funny
apparently God also lacks foresight and has regrets and is also Genocidal and then later watches some incestual lovin and then directs the Israelites to slaughter, rape and take slaves
hen the LORD saw that the wickedness of man was great on the earth, and that every intent of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually. 6The LORD was sorry that He had made man on the earth, and He was grieved in His heart. 7The LORD said, "I will blot out man whom I have created from the face of the land, from man to animals to creeping things and to birds of the sky; for I am sorry that I have made them."
nope that cant be this is a perfect being
He is. But the people who wrote the Bible are not. And there's the rub.
Posted on 1/8/14 at 11:15 am to NC_Tigah
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Yet another antitheist losing on points related to an OP, then changing the dialogue to attack Christians in an unwinnable but unlosable argument. Well done.
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It's like switching from Chess to Tic-Tac-Toe. You might get your arse kicked in chess, but in tic-tac-toe you can always manage a tie. Nice switch.
Posted on 1/8/14 at 11:18 am to CJM18
haven't read the whole thread, but has the rendition of the monument been posted yet? looks totally harmless to me.
Posted on 1/8/14 at 11:29 am to bencoleman
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I don't live by them, I don't attempt to live by them. We as christians are not required and it is not even implied that we have to. When I hear someone quote out of the old testament they are usually trying to control another person. The old testament was written for Jews by Jews and it's nice to read and all but I don't live out of it
We're not required to live by them to make us right with God like the old testament jews were. Christ has made us right with God, so we live by them as a result of what Christ has done in our hearts. there's a big difference here that non-believers often totally miss.
Posted on 1/8/14 at 11:38 am to Bunsbert Montcroff
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haven't read the whole thread, but has the rendition of the monument been posted yet? looks totally harmless to me.
Joking, right?
Posted on 1/8/14 at 11:43 am to bencoleman
quote:Not responsive to the questions asked. Not even on point regarding the historical basis you raised. However, in establishing their disconnect from current Christianity, you do make an effective argument against those who would try to tie the two together.
I don't live by them, I don't attempt to live by them. We as christians are not required and it is not even implied that we have to.
Posted on 1/8/14 at 11:56 am to bencoleman
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We as christians are not required and it is not even implied that we have to.
1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 He was in the beginning with God. 3 All things were made through Him, and without Him nothing was made that was made. 4 In Him was life, and the life was the light of men. 5 And the light shines in the darkness, and the darkness did not comprehend[a] it.
Can you please explain to me, as a Christian, where O.T. and N.T. are differentiated in this Scripture?
Posted on 1/8/14 at 12:56 pm to CJM18
quote:Wrong
so we live by them as a result of what Christ has done in our hearts
Posted on 1/8/14 at 12:59 pm to NC_Tigah
quote:Not sure what question you are talking about. The historical statement I made is a stand alone statement it doesn't require any more explanation.
Not responsive to the questions asked. Not even on point regarding the historical basis you raised.
Posted on 1/8/14 at 1:00 pm to Lg
quote:Dude, if you don't get it no amount of explanation by me or likely anyone else will get through to you either.
Can you please explain to me, as a Christian, where O.T. and N.T. are differentiated in this Scripture?
Posted on 1/8/14 at 1:06 pm to bencoleman
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quote:so we live by them as a result of what Christ has done in our hearts
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Wrong
What exactly is your viewpoint of the commandments? That it doesn't matter if Christians follow them or not? Surely that's not what you're saying?
Posted on 1/8/14 at 1:11 pm to CJM18
quote:It is your choice, There is really only one commandment you should worry about.
What exactly is your viewpoint of the commandments? That it doesn't matter if Christians follow them or not? Surely that's not what you're saying?
Posted on 1/8/14 at 1:16 pm to Bunsbert Montcroff
Not only is it harmless but it's useful. Tired pedestrians can sit on Satan's lap to rest a bit:
Posted on 1/8/14 at 1:17 pm to bencoleman
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Dude, if you don't get it no amount of explanation by me or likely anyone else will get through to you either.
Why so defensive? If Christ was in the beginning He was definitely in the O.T. And which One of the commandments is the only One that we should follow?
Posted on 1/8/14 at 1:19 pm to CJM18
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haven't read the whole thread, but has the rendition of the monument been posted yet? looks totally harmless to me.
Joking, right?
Posted on 1/8/14 at 1:19 pm to bencoleman
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There is really only one commandment you should worry about.
How have you come to this conclusion, and which one is it?
Posted on 1/8/14 at 1:26 pm to bencoleman
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Not sure what question you are talking about. The historical statement I made is a stand alone statement it doesn't require any more explanation.
quote:Do you or don't you place some sort of historical value on them?
They are nothing unless you place some sort of historical value on them.
Posted on 1/8/14 at 2:48 pm to bencoleman
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gnorant scripture spewing christians are insufferable and they make us all look bad.
Which book would you suggest Christians spew from?
This post was edited on 1/8/14 at 3:42 pm
Posted on 1/8/14 at 2:51 pm to Vegas Bengal
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Correct but I'd disagree that God exhibits righteous anger. God is a perfect being. Anger, be it righteous or otherwise, like jealousy, is a human frailty of which God does not have.
You are clueless.
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People like Rev are like natives in the jungle or Pat Robertson who believe hurricanes and other natural disasters are God's wrath for human sin. Their minds are not developed enough to comprehend science or for that matter the truly perfect God. They project their own shortcomings on God and irrationally deduce that anything bad that happens must be because God is angry. We must sacrifice like the Jews did at the temple at the time of Christ or the natives did in Fiji.
I would appreciate it if you stopped misrepresenting my beliefs.
This post was edited on 1/8/14 at 3:41 pm
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