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re: Rush Limbaugh pouts about potential black James Bond

Posted on 12/30/14 at 2:31 pm to
Posted by goatmilker
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Posted on 12/30/14 at 2:31 pm to
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As to this great debate I'll just say after a sh!t load of Bond movies I think its safe to consider other races for the part. If they have not mined the official background of Flemmings Bond by now who's damn fault is that?


You left this out.

I don't own the franchise. Whoever does should have the freedom to do what the f@ck they wish to with it. There is no bigger bond fan than me. But if they thinks it would work who am i to argue?
Ticket sales will determine if they were/are correct or not.

Posted by DawgfaninCa
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Posted on 12/30/14 at 2:43 pm to
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I don't own the franchise. Whoever does should have the freedom to do what the f@ck they wish to with it.


Of course they do.

However, it would be crazy for someone to put a new engine in their car when all it needed was a minor tune-up.
This post was edited on 12/30/14 at 3:03 pm
Posted by Navtiger1
Washington
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Posted on 12/30/14 at 2:44 pm to
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Ticket sales will determine if they were/are correct or not.


This is why Bond will never be black. And it isn't because of the racist Americans. It would probably do ok here, but would bomb world wide. Europe is extremely racist and that is where the Bond films have made their money. Europeans would never go for it.
Posted by goatmilker
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Posted on 12/30/14 at 2:47 pm to
Its a crazy world no doubt.
Posted by TigerRad
Columbia, SC
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 12/30/14 at 2:52 pm to
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James Bond is a fictional white male character


he is whatever color the creators of the fiction say he is

its not your call

the movies have borne no relation to the books for years, other than the general concept of a British secret agent (which is quite obviously not race specific in 2014)


You have still said nothing to contradict the widely accepted notion that Idris Elba is a total badass actor, and that there is NOONE better suited to play such a character. Watch Luther and The Wire and some of his movie performances and you will likely agree.

Elba is the PERFECT actor to play Bond, and you can not name a better one.
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
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Posted on 12/30/14 at 2:54 pm to
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he is whatever color the creators of the fiction say he is


so........white
Posted by TigerRad
Columbia, SC
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 12/30/14 at 2:56 pm to
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so........white


not if they hire Elba
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
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Posted on 12/30/14 at 2:58 pm to
Then he wouldn't be James Bond.
Posted by goatmilker
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Posted on 12/30/14 at 3:01 pm to
Posted by DawgfaninCa
San Francisco, California
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Posted on 12/30/14 at 3:11 pm to
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You have still said nothing to contradict the widely accepted notion that Idris Elba is a total badass actor, and that there is NOONE better suited to play such a character.


I'm sure Elba is a good actor and can play the role of a bad arse.

quote:

Elba is the PERFECT actor to play Shaft, and you can not name a better one.


FIFY
Posted by goatmilker
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Posted on 12/30/14 at 3:18 pm to
Ian Fleming is dead.
He wrote 6 novels I believe.
All further writing concerning James Bond is heresy. There is no more true Bond as sanctified by Ian.

Only one actor who portrayed Bond was from Scotland. And that was the 1st S Connery.

All the others were not "correct" as they did not come from Scotland.

The one true Bond died with Ian. Sorry guys.
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
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Posted on 12/30/14 at 3:26 pm to
Then why call him James Bond?
Posted by goatmilker
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Posted on 12/30/14 at 3:35 pm to
Ask who ever is writing them now. Not me.
I'm for Juan Bond.
Posted by TigerRad
Columbia, SC
Member since Jan 2007
5361 posts
Posted on 12/30/14 at 3:47 pm to
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Then why call him James Bond?


so people will go see the movie?
Posted by goatmilker
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Posted on 12/30/14 at 4:04 pm to
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However, it would be crazy for someone to put a new engine in their car when all it needed was a minor tune-up


What if they used a gay engine?
Posted by DawgfaninCa
San Francisco, California
Member since Sep 2012
20092 posts
Posted on 12/30/14 at 4:21 pm to
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What if they used a gay engine?


Are you asking, what if they used a gay injun to play James Bond?
Posted by Green Chili Tiger
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Posted on 12/30/14 at 5:14 pm to
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a gay engine?


???

Posted by BuckyBadger
Member since Aug 2014
740 posts
Posted on 12/30/14 at 6:48 pm to
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Just because the director and producers make their livings from making movies that doesn't automatically mean they are correct when they decide to change the race of an iconic fictional male character from white to black.
Which misses the point. You asked for a logical reason. If they believe he is the best it is logical.

You are still racist and stupid.
Posted by EA6B
TX
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 12/30/14 at 9:04 pm to
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Ian Fleming is dead. He wrote 6 novels I believe.


Actually there were 15, I read them all as a kid.

Casino Royale (1953)
Live and Let Die (1954)
Moonraker (1955)
Diamonds Are Forever (1956)
From Russia, with Love (1957)
The Diamond Smugglers (1957)
Dr. No (1958)
Goldfinger (1959)
For Your Eyes Only (1960)
Thunderball (1961)
The Spy Who Loved Me (1962)
On Her Majesty's Secret Service (1963)
You Only Live Twice (1964)
The Man with the Golden Gun (1965)
Octopussy and The Living Daylights (1966)

Posted by DawgfaninCa
San Francisco, California
Member since Sep 2012
20092 posts
Posted on 12/30/14 at 9:27 pm to
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Which misses the point. You asked for a logical reason. If they believe he is the best it is logical.



Thinking a black actor is the best person to play the role of a white man is an illogical reason not a logical reason.

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You are still racist and stupid.


Your head is still screwed on backwards.
This post was edited on 12/30/14 at 9:37 pm
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