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Posted on 4/5/25 at 11:13 am
Posted by CollegeFBRules
Member since Oct 2008
25414 posts
Posted on 4/5/25 at 11:13 am
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If you failed to spot America being “looted, pillaged, raped and plundered by nations near and far” or it being cruelly denied a “turn to prosper”, then congratulations: you have a firmer grip on reality than the president of the United States. It’s hard to know which is more unsettling: that the leader of the free world could spout complete drivel about its most successful and admired economy. Or the fact that on April 2nd, spurred on by his delusions, Donald Trump announced the biggest break in America’s trade policy in over a century—and committed the most profound, harmful and unnecessary economic error in the modern era.

Speaking in the Rose Garden of the White House, the president announced new “reciprocal” tariffs on almost all America’s trading partners. There will be levies of 34% on China, 27% on India, 24% on Japan and 20% on the European Union. Many small economies face swingeing rates; all targets face a tariff of at least 10%. Including existing duties, the total levy on China will now be 65%. Canada and Mexico were spared additional tariffs, and the new levies will not be added to industry-specific measures, such as a 25% tariff on cars, or a promised tariff on semiconductors. But America’s overall tariff rate will soar above its Depression-era level back to the 19th century.


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Almost everything Mr Trump said this week—on history, economics and the technicalities of trade—was utterly deluded. His reading of history is upside down. He has long glorified the high-tariff, low-income-tax era of the late-19th century. In fact, the best scholarship shows that tariffs impeded the economy back then. He has now added the bizarre claim that lifting tariffs caused the Depression of the 1930s and that the Smoot-Hawley tariffs were too late to rescue the situation. The reality is that tariffs made the Depression much worse, just as they will harm all economies today. It was the painstaking rounds of trade talks in the subsequent 80 years that lowered tariffs and helped increase prosperity.


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On economics Mr Trump’s assertions are flat-out nonsense. The president says tariffs are needed to close America’s trade deficit, which he sees as a transfer of wealth to foreigners. Yet as any of the president’s economists could have told him, this overall deficit arises because Americans choose to save less than their country invests—and, crucially, this long-running reality has not stopped its economy from outpacing the rest of the G7 for over three decades. There is no reason why his extra tariffs should eliminate the deficit.


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And Mr Trump’s grasp of the technicalities was pathetic. He suggested that the new tariffs were based on an assessment of a country’s tariffs against America, plus currency manipulation and other supposed distortions, such as value-added tax. But it looks as if officials set the tariffs using a formula that takes America’s bilateral trade deficit as a share of goods imported from each country and halves it—which is almost as random as taxing you on the number of vowels in your name.


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Instead, governments should focus on increasing trade flows among themselves, especially in the services that power the 21st-century economy. With a share of final demand for imports of only 15%, America does not dominate global trade the way it does global finance or military spending. Even if it halted imports entirely, on current trends 100 of its trading partners would have recovered all their lost exports within just five years, calculates Global Trade Alert, a think-tank. The eu, the 12 members of the Comprehensive and Progressive Agreement for Trans Pacific Partnership (CPTPP), South Korea and small open economies like Norway account for 34% of global demand for imports.


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Oh, I know…liberal publication, mindless idiots, nonsense drivel, TDS.
Posted by Riverside
Member since Jul 2022
8791 posts
Posted on 4/5/25 at 11:15 am to
They are big mad. Just like you.

Enjoy your Saturday.
Posted by cajuntiger1010
Member since Jan 2015
13957 posts
Posted on 4/5/25 at 11:15 am to
You linked the Economist?

Those frickers got us in this mess.
Posted by tiger789
on the bayou
Member since Dec 2008
2127 posts
Posted on 4/5/25 at 11:15 am to
FIRST downvote !
Posted by moontigr
Commanders/LA Kings/Detroit Tigers
Member since Nov 2020
7105 posts
Posted on 4/5/25 at 11:16 am to
quote:

Oh, I know…liberal publication, mindless idiots, nonsense drivel, TDS.


This post was edited on 4/5/25 at 11:18 am
Posted by Strannix
C.S.A.
Member since Dec 2012
53078 posts
Posted on 4/5/25 at 11:16 am to
How many melt posts are you gonna make?
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
86858 posts
Posted on 4/5/25 at 11:16 am to
One thing they don’t mention is Wall Street caused the crash and we had a surplus back then.

We hadn’t been trading at a deficit for 50 years.

Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298305 posts
Posted on 4/5/25 at 11:16 am to
Al
quote:

most everything Mr Trump said this week—on history, economics and the technicalities of trade—was utterly deluded.


He;s lying his arse off to these worthless rubes and they arent smart enough to know the difference.
Posted by CollegeFBRules
Member since Oct 2008
25414 posts
Posted on 4/5/25 at 11:16 am to
quote:

How many melt posts are you gonna make?


As many as I feel like making.
Posted by GeauxLSUGeaux
1 room down from Erin Andrews
Member since May 2004
25609 posts
Posted on 4/5/25 at 11:17 am to
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He has long glorified the high-tariff, low-income-tax era of the late-19th century


You want us to believe this article and yet they didn’t even bother to look up that the U.S. didn’t even implement income taxes until 1913.
Posted by Riverside
Member since Jul 2022
8791 posts
Posted on 4/5/25 at 11:17 am to
Don’t you have a Trump protest to get ready for?
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
86858 posts
Posted on 4/5/25 at 11:18 am to
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17 Nobel Prize–winning economists back Biden’s $3.5 trillion Build Back Better plan
Posted by CollegeFBRules
Member since Oct 2008
25414 posts
Posted on 4/5/25 at 11:18 am to
quote:

You want us to believe this article and yet they didn’t even bother to look up that the U.S. didn’t even implement income taxes until 1913.


What does this have to do at all with what you quoted?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298305 posts
Posted on 4/5/25 at 11:18 am to
quote:

Don’t you have a Trump protest to get ready for?


He aint worth it.

I;ll keep letting him drag y'all down, you'll eventually understand
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
113116 posts
Posted on 4/5/25 at 11:19 am to
Magazine based in UK/Europe decrying Trump's policies?

Go figure...
This post was edited on 4/5/25 at 11:26 am
Posted by GeauxLSUGeaux
1 room down from Erin Andrews
Member since May 2004
25609 posts
Posted on 4/5/25 at 11:20 am to
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What does this have to do at all with what you quoted?


It’s quoted saying that the U.S. had high tariff and low-income taxes in the 19th century, whenever income taxes weren’t a thing until the 20th century.

how are we supposed to take anything this person says seriously?
This post was edited on 4/5/25 at 11:23 am
Posted by Riverside
Member since Jul 2022
8791 posts
Posted on 4/5/25 at 11:20 am to
I’ll pray for you.
Posted by CollegeFBRules
Member since Oct 2008
25414 posts
Posted on 4/5/25 at 11:20 am to
quote:

He aint worth it.

I;ll keep letting him drag y'all down, you'll eventually understand


They won’t ever admit they were wrong, even when it stares them in the face.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298305 posts
Posted on 4/5/25 at 11:20 am to
quote:

I’ll pray for you.


I dont think your Orange God actually listens to you
Posted by RadRob
Acadiana
Member since Oct 2021
228 posts
Posted on 4/5/25 at 11:22 am to
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