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re: Roll Call. The Senate needs 67 votes to convict Trump. They have 50. 17 needed.
Posted on 2/9/21 at 9:05 am to JackieTreehorn
Posted on 2/9/21 at 9:05 am to JackieTreehorn
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The GOP will destroy themselves for good. And strangely I think they want to. They are pussies.
It is all one, big uni-party... They are not destroying themselves, they are attempting to destroy the people that voted Trump in and push them back into a corner...
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Posted on 2/9/21 at 9:10 am to BamaGradinTn
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Ye, he has refused because he doesn't believe it's constitutional to try someone after leaving office.
That's not what I was told by a very reputable source right here on this board. It's because he was so utterly disgusted by Trump's behavior in the first trial that he simply can't stand to be in the same room with him for another trial.
Posted on 2/9/21 at 9:11 am to td01241
quote:It is not a single "yes or no" question. In fact, it is about four distinct questions.
Hank answer a cut and dry yes or no question: In your legal mind can you impeach (I assume you know the actual meaning of the word) and convict someone who isn’t currently serving in a governmental position?
1. Can the House impeach someone (adopt Articles of Impeachment) who is NOT holding office at the time that the House adopts the Articles of Impeachment? No.
2. Can the House impeach someone who is a current office-holder, even if he is about to LEAVE office? Yes.
3. Can the Senate CONVICT someone who was improperly impeached by the House under (1)? No. I think that the Senate would be obligated to decline to proceed. Unfortunately, this argument was presented in the Belknap case, and the Senate chose to proceed anyway. Constitutionally, I think this was an error.
4. Can the Senate CONVICT someone who was impeached by the House under (2), but who has subsequently left office ... either by (a) completion of his term or (b) resignation?
THAT is the only interesting question (or two). We have Sentorial precedent that says "yes," but no judicial precedent. My GUT tells me the answer is legally "yes" as well, but I acknowledge that that it is a close call ... with reasonable arguments to be made on both sides of the issue. An argument can even be made that (a) versus (b) might produce different results. i.e. Trump vs Belknap
This post was edited on 2/9/21 at 9:55 am
Posted on 2/9/21 at 9:19 am to Jjdoc
I think you’re over counting by seven. Maybe six.
Posted on 2/9/21 at 9:30 am to AURaptor
Hope they get to 16 and it stalls.....
and the GOPers who went along with this charade are all primaried and out on their a$$
and the GOPers who went along with this charade are all primaried and out on their a$$
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