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Posted on 2/17/20 at 8:30 pm to texashorn
quote:
What makes you think this is a blanket amnesty?
You have already admitted that you don’t know what’s in the legislation...
I listened to Horowitz and Levin discussing this and the consensus is the legislation will eventually add upwards of 6 million illegals into legal status and eventually citizenship. Frickery at all levels if you ask me, imagine folks who are trying to immigrate properly....would you be a little pissed off?
Posted on 2/17/20 at 8:30 pm to Bass Tiger
quote:
Trump will easily lose more votes than he gains if he’s duped by the Swamp Repubes.
I agree.
The GOP might benefit in the long run though. But again, it doesn’t seem like Reagan’s amnesty got the Hispanic vote.
Posted on 2/17/20 at 8:31 pm to BamaCoaster
quote:you can try
This needs to happen.
You can’t deport 12 mil people.
"They got here. They can go back." - Newt Gingrich
Posted on 2/17/20 at 8:31 pm to Bass Tiger
The only way I could support this concept is:
1) full funding of wall
2) law allowing for unilateral cutting off of federal $ to sanctuary cities
3) birthright citizenship gone
4) amnesty would only allow for legal status, NOT citizenship
5) auto-deportation upon conviction for any crime (other than a traffic violation [does not apply to DWIs]). No hearing. Straight to the airport.
6) 25% tax on all remittances
All of the above will be in place as law before any "amnesty" is extended.
Oh, and for the last condition:
They will not be allowed to vote in federal elections for 20 years.
1) full funding of wall
2) law allowing for unilateral cutting off of federal $ to sanctuary cities
3) birthright citizenship gone
4) amnesty would only allow for legal status, NOT citizenship
5) auto-deportation upon conviction for any crime (other than a traffic violation [does not apply to DWIs]). No hearing. Straight to the airport.
6) 25% tax on all remittances
All of the above will be in place as law before any "amnesty" is extended.
Oh, and for the last condition:
They will not be allowed to vote in federal elections for 20 years.
This post was edited on 2/17/20 at 8:35 pm
Posted on 2/17/20 at 8:32 pm to texashorn
As someone who actually cares about the welfare of poor Americans. Amnesty, in any form, is a bad idea, and a betrayal of the working poor, the one group in America without any political heft.
The one group that is no position to defend itself, from the predilections of the fortunate, and the connected.
This push for amnesty exposes the moral vacuum that our political class lives in.
And it exposes just how much they hate poor working Americans.
The one group that is no position to defend itself, from the predilections of the fortunate, and the connected.
This push for amnesty exposes the moral vacuum that our political class lives in.
And it exposes just how much they hate poor working Americans.
This post was edited on 2/17/20 at 8:40 pm
Posted on 2/17/20 at 8:32 pm to texashorn
quote:
Those crops aren’t going to pick themselves, bro.
Those people aren't going to murder themselves anymore those those drugs aren't gonna smuggle themselves or those girls aren't gonna rape themselves!
You have the same mentality as the old slave owners. "You know what those good cotton britches gonna cost if we got to pay white boys to pick that cotton?"
Posted on 2/17/20 at 8:32 pm to BamaCoaster
quote:
You can’t deport 12 mil people.
Enforce laws against hiring illegals and they’ll voluntarily go back to their homes.
Posted on 2/17/20 at 8:32 pm to Dale51
A common exchange:
Babykiller: We should offer a path to citizenship for undocumented immigrants.
Nazi: Great. So how many will you be taking into your house?
Very well.
Dale51: Let’s deport the >10million illegals.
xiv: Great. How many will you be carrying on your back across the border?
Both are very derp.
Babykiller: We should offer a path to citizenship for undocumented immigrants.
Nazi: Great. So how many will you be taking into your house?
Very well.
Dale51: Let’s deport the >10million illegals.
xiv: Great. How many will you be carrying on your back across the border?
Both are very derp.
Posted on 2/17/20 at 8:33 pm to xiv
That probably sounded much better in your head
Posted on 2/17/20 at 8:34 pm to biglego
quote:The only thing that could compel the government to do this is election results. Illegals simply aren’t unpopular enough, nationally speaking, to get this done.
Enforce laws against hiring illegals and they’ll voluntarily go back to their homes.
Posted on 2/17/20 at 8:34 pm to biglego
Let’s be honest, here. And not Fantasy Island.
What do you think would happen if illegals working in agriculture were deported?
What do you think would happen if illegals working in agriculture were deported?
Posted on 2/17/20 at 8:36 pm to udtiger
quote:
udtiger
The only way I could support this concept is:
1) full funding of wall
2) law allowing for unilateral cutting off of federal $ to sanctuary cities
3) birthright citizenship gone
4) amnesty would only allow for legal status, NOT citizenship
5) auto-deportation upon conviction for may crime (other than a traffic violation [does not apply to DWIs]). No hearing. Straight to the airport.
6) 25% tax on all remittances
All of the above will be in place as law before any "amnesty" is extended.
Oh, and for the last condition:
They will not be allowed to vote in federal elections for 20 years.
Your conditions would be a decent carrot for conservatives but the DC Swamp and the US Chamber of Commerce would never agree to your conditions because it would essentially end illegal immigration....they don’t really want that.
Posted on 2/17/20 at 8:36 pm to jnethe1
quote:If I liked them, they wouldn’t be uncomfortable. Great point bro.
You really hate uncomfortable facts don’t you.
Posted on 2/17/20 at 8:36 pm to biglego
If you make illegal immigration difficult, the supply of illegal workers will shrink, and employers will be obliged to increase wages to the point that Americans will take these jobs.
This post was edited on 2/17/20 at 8:39 pm
Posted on 2/17/20 at 8:37 pm to udtiger
quote:
Oh, and for the last condition:
They will not be allowed to vote
You were born in the wrong country.
Posted on 2/17/20 at 8:37 pm to xiv
Yep
Posted on 2/17/20 at 8:38 pm to texashorn
quote:
What do you think would happen if illegals working in agriculture were deported?
• Higher Wages
• Increased Mechanization
Posted on 2/17/20 at 8:40 pm to jnethe1
I’ve read the bill. Nothing stands out as particularly objectionable to me. Is there any text in the bill that you find uncomfortable?
ETA: I’ve read the summary of the bill.
ETA: I’ve read the summary of the bill.
This post was edited on 2/17/20 at 8:41 pm
Posted on 2/17/20 at 8:40 pm to xiv
quote:
Very well.
Dale51: Let’s deport the >10million illegals.
xiv: Great. How many will you be carrying on your back across the border?
Both are very derp.
That is an unbelievably weak analogy.
It doesn't work on any level.
Sad.
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