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Rand Paul nails it on Iraq then & now

Posted on 6/19/14 at 7:35 pm
Posted by pleading the fifth
Member since Feb 2006
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Posted on 6/19/14 at 7:35 pm
Excerpt from WSJ:

quote:

Saying the mess in Iraq is President Obama's fault ignores what President Bush did wrong. Saying it is President Bush's fault is to ignore all the horrible foreign policy decisions in Syria, Libya, Egypt and elsewhere under President Obama, many of which may have contributed to the current crisis in Iraq. For former Bush officials to blame President Obama or for Democrats to blame President Bush only serves as a reminder that both sides continue to get foreign policy wrong. We need a new approach, one that emulates Reagan's policies, puts America first, seeks peace, faces war reluctantly, and when necessary acts fully and decisively. Too many in Washington are prevented by their own pride from admitting their mistakes. They are more concerned about saving face or pursuing a rigid ideology than they are with constructing a realist foreign policy.


Rest of op-ed: LINK
Posted by 4LSU2
Member since Dec 2009
37317 posts
Posted on 6/19/14 at 7:41 pm to
This certainly sounds like a man that truly gets it, but we heard the same song and dance from Obama during his campaign in 2008. Everything he campaigned on has been a complete lie.
Posted by TT9
Global warming
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Posted on 6/19/14 at 7:42 pm to
He's spot on.
Posted by LSUGrrrl
Frisco, TX
Member since Jul 2007
32859 posts
Posted on 6/19/14 at 7:44 pm to
They are more concerned d with getting re-elected and gaining/holding on to power to admit their mistakes.
Posted by genuineLSUtiger
Nashville
Member since Sep 2005
72895 posts
Posted on 6/19/14 at 7:44 pm to
I just have a hard time trusting any of these clowns. Although RP would get my vote if he ran.
Posted by trackfan
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 6/19/14 at 7:45 pm to
He was doing good until he held up Reagan as an example to be emulated, lest we forget his Mideast screw-ups. IMO, Bush 41 was the best foreign policy President in my lifetime, both in the Mideast and elsewhere.
Posted by TT9
Global warming
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Posted on 6/19/14 at 7:47 pm to
I'm quasi liberal, and he would get mine because of his foreign policy views alone.

This country needs new blood.
Posted by Born to be a Tiger
Somewhere lost in Texas
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Posted on 6/19/14 at 9:52 pm to
So who was Bush 41 SoS?
Posted by efrad
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Posted on 6/19/14 at 9:57 pm to
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Posted by pleading the fifth
Member since Feb 2006
3891 posts
Posted on 6/19/14 at 10:01 pm to
I read it more as him championing Reagan's Defense Secretary Caspar Weinberger doctrine for war following Vietnam than Reagan's foreign policy. Regardless, a breath of fresh air in contrast to the notoriously war-hawkish GOP.
Posted by JuiceTerry
Roond the Scheme
Member since Apr 2013
40868 posts
Posted on 6/19/14 at 10:25 pm to
quote:

We need a new approach,
quote:

puts America first, seeks peace, faces war reluctantly, and when necessary acts fully and decisively.
Sounds like every other politician trying to win an election. I guarantee I could find a clip of Obama saying the same thing, essentially.
Posted by trackfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 6/19/14 at 11:05 pm to
quote:

I read it more as him championing Reagan's Defense Secretary Caspar Weinberger doctrine for war following Vietnam than Reagan's foreign policy. Regardless, a breath of fresh air in contrast to the notoriously war-hawkish GOP.

I think he was probably pandering to the base who believes that Reagan was a deity. Let's not forget that only a month ago, Paul was slamming Reagan for being a worse President on fiscal issues than Carter.
Posted by trackfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2010
19691 posts
Posted on 6/19/14 at 11:06 pm to
quote:

So who was Bush 41 SoS?

Is this a rhetorical question? If so, what's your point?
Posted by Sleeping Tiger
Member since Sep 2013
8488 posts
Posted on 6/19/14 at 11:07 pm to
Ron nailed it for a long long time too.

Unfortunately it wasn't trendy to like him at the time.
Posted by John McClane
Member since Apr 2010
36668 posts
Posted on 6/20/14 at 12:21 am to
I fricking love this guy. I just hope people show up and support him
Posted by John McClane
Member since Apr 2010
36668 posts
Posted on 6/20/14 at 12:24 am to
quote:

I think he was probably pandering to the base who believes that Reagan was a deity. Let's not forget that only a month ago, Paul was slamming Reagan for being a worse President on fiscal issues than Carter.


Where the frick are you getting that from?

Rand didn't mention fiscal issues. That's not what he is talking about. He can't praise certain Reagan views and attack different ones?
Posted by Buckeye Backer
Columbus, Ohio
Member since Aug 2009
9235 posts
Posted on 6/20/14 at 6:10 am to
Voted for Obama. Will vote for Rand Paul if he wins the nomination. As an Army Iraq War Veteran, he will get my vote on his foreign policy views alone. We need a new way of thinking in this country. Hyper-Partisianship is killing this great country. We need somebody that isnt afraid of either party. Rand Paul scares the shite out of both partes. He gets my vote!!
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
98152 posts
Posted on 6/20/14 at 6:11 am to
I heard a pundit the other day say Cheney's PR offensive on Iraq is really aimed at Rand.
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
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70920 posts
Posted on 6/20/14 at 6:29 am to
quote:

For former Bush officials to blame President Obama or for Democrats to blame President Bush only serves as a reminder that both sides continue to get foreign policy wrong.


Same goes for domestic policy.
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
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Member since Jan 2005
70920 posts
Posted on 6/20/14 at 6:30 am to
quote:

This certainly sounds like a man that truly gets it, but we heard the same song and dance from Obama during his campaign in 2008. Everything he campaigned on has been a complete lie.


I understand the skepticism. But there's a big difference. Obama was pandering to his party's base. This is a risky position for a Republican which makes it more likely to be sincere.
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