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re: Questions about Reagan

Posted on 4/10/14 at 8:51 pm to
Posted by Tackle74
Columbia, MO
Member since Mar 2012
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Posted on 4/10/14 at 8:51 pm to
Thing about presidents and jobs and economics is so full of bullshite. The biggest mover in those areas are the business cycle not the policies of one person, even a president. As for Reagan, I was a Reagan kid and still like him for his attitude and love of the USA. Some of his policies and scandals though are very bad. I would put him in the middle ground of US presidents.
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Posted by charlieg14
Member since Mar 2006
3076 posts
Posted on 4/13/14 at 1:34 pm to
My only point is that EVERY MAN who has EVER been elected to the Presidency makes good and bad decisions if one is open-minded and DOES NOT consider where their political ideas are. EVERY one.

Posted by charlieg14
Member since Mar 2006
3076 posts
Posted on 4/13/14 at 1:35 pm to
Surprised that Obama is automatically the worst. Really surprised. Shocked even.
Posted by charlieg14
Member since Mar 2006
3076 posts
Posted on 4/13/14 at 1:38 pm to
And you don't find it amazing that Iran released prisoners as soon the election took place and Reagan in office. That was nothing but an IRANIAN decision not to do it at the time. Reagan did NOTHING to do with it in that regard. Given credit for doing nothing.
Posted by charlieg14
Member since Mar 2006
3076 posts
Posted on 4/13/14 at 1:40 pm to
That's an interesting point. The Dems will look for 'the next Obama.' But Hillary wouldn't fit that.



And what conservative will replace the Presidency of BOZO the clown, GWII. Let's see? Goofy, Pluto ?
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
112432 posts
Posted on 4/13/14 at 3:34 pm to
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Thing about presidents and jobs and economics is so full of bullshite. The biggest mover in those areas are the business cycle not the policies of one person, even a president.


Wrong. The normal business cycle would have had the US in a normal recovery 4 years ago. The reason we are having the flattest recovery in the history of American recoveries is because the President is a Communist and business is sitting on capital refusing to take risks.
There will be no recovery until he is gone. I posted this 5 years ago on this board. I'm still right.
Posted by CITWTT
baton rouge
Member since Sep 2005
31765 posts
Posted on 4/13/14 at 4:03 pm to
quote] If that were to happen today the shite would be HUGE[/quote]






That is some truly funny shite you posted as it is happening by tons of buckets and roundly ignored by so man people you are in that crowd and don't admit it at all. How many scandals and deaths have come in the last five years with three more to endure? How many laws have been re-written/ignored byway off Presidential fiat?
Take a good look at the organization known as the DOJ for shits and giggles.
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
112432 posts
Posted on 4/13/14 at 4:13 pm to
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Democrats are the ones who look for the "D" v. the "R". Democrats are the monolithic lemmings willing to go over the cliff. This is funny. In one sentence you accuse me of projecting, and in the very next sentence you do the very thing you just accused me of. Pot meet kettle.


Wrong. Dems have sued to make sure the D is there because their constituency can't read can't read too good.


Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
57134 posts
Posted on 4/13/14 at 4:17 pm to
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The reason we are having the flattest recovery in the history of American recoveries is because the President is a Communist and business is sitting on capital refusing to take risks.
This. And teh fact that we've bailed out the banks, and encouraged them to keep bank-owned inventory off the market, thus keeping the real estate bubble somewhat inflated.

If the Obama administration was truly interested in home ownership, or recovery of the housing market they would let the prices fall increasing affordability and clearing inventory.

Of course doing that and bailing out the banks isn't possible...
This post was edited on 4/13/14 at 4:18 pm
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
57134 posts
Posted on 4/13/14 at 4:24 pm to
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Reagan did NOTHING to do with it in that regard.
Here's the think about resolve and conviction... you don't have to act to get others to act. You don't show toughness by drawing "red lines" only to erase them later. Everyone on the planet knew what would happen after the election. Reagan would finish the mission that Carter let fail in the desert...

Go here. The source docs are here. You'll have to search, but the Russian memos... are telling. LINK /
Posted by charlieg14
Member since Mar 2006
3076 posts
Posted on 4/13/14 at 8:11 pm to
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Go here. The source docs are here. You'll have to search, but the Russian memos... are telling. LINK /






So now right wing apologists are using Russian documents as evidence to rove their points. Bullcrap.
Posted by Lakeboy7
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2011
23965 posts
Posted on 4/13/14 at 8:23 pm to
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He fricked up supremely in Beirut


Yes he did, if that happened in todays climate no president would survive.
Posted by TheBob
Metairie
Member since Jun 2005
16935 posts
Posted on 4/13/14 at 8:29 pm to
He loved his country, hated communism, and was a leader. I was born in '79 and enjoy now going back and watching YouTube videos on his debates, SOTUs, etc.

He just oozed charisma, and was a great leader for our country. He was a patriot.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
123846 posts
Posted on 4/13/14 at 8:32 pm to
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Yes he did, if that happened in todays climate no president would survive.


Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
123846 posts
Posted on 4/13/14 at 8:34 pm to
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And you don't find it amazing that Iran released prisoners as soon the election took place and Reagan in office. That was nothing but an IRANIAN decision not to do it at the time. Reagan did NOTHING to do with it in that regard. Given credit for doing nothing.
Highly debatable
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
57134 posts
Posted on 4/13/14 at 8:56 pm to
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So now right wing apologists are using Russian documents as evidence to rove their points. Bullcrap.
Try reading. It's good for you. Well, better than reveling in your ignorance.
Posted by volforever
nashville
Member since May 2012
1788 posts
Posted on 4/13/14 at 9:10 pm to
Reagan was legit until that "warning" he got.
Posted by CSATiger
The Battlefield
Member since Aug 2010
6220 posts
Posted on 4/14/14 at 8:50 am to
He took a bullet and laughed about it. People loved him for that.
Posted by jdd267
Jennings, La
Member since Sep 2012
311 posts
Posted on 4/14/14 at 2:40 pm to
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We sold outdated weapons to a faction in Iran that was trying to undercut the Ayatollah. The money we got for that was used to fund opposition to communist domination of Nicaragra.


here's the problem, it was illegal. and everyone knew it, thats why they tried to cover it up.
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 4/14/14 at 2:55 pm to
The best thing about Reagan was that he was a MASTER at propaganda.

But then, he was a professional actor (hell, he was president of the Screen Actors Guild), so he was trained in memorizing scripts and eliciting emotions from an audience. He also was well aware of the power of imagery.
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