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Question regarding Texas power failure

Posted on 2/18/21 at 10:11 am
Posted by Paddyshack
Land of the Free
Member since Sep 2015
8177 posts
Posted on 2/18/21 at 10:11 am
One of my good friends is a somewhat moderate liberal and really the only person on the other side of the political aisle who I care to engage with, typically. Most of our conversations result in civil discourse, with both of us trying to learn and see different perspectives. Of course, we throw jabs at each other and at each other's political affiliations.

He recently moved to Dallas, so yesterday I texted him to see how they were holding up, with a somewhat facetious and sarcastic message that read
"interesting how global warming/mother nature doesnt give a f*ck about our green energy"

The response: "Interesting how the largest electrical failure in the past 30 years of Texas comes after a few wealthy families who came together to deregulate the electrical grid, supported some of those "green" initiatives, and now have millions without power, while price gouging millions because they wanted the Fed Gov out of Texas. But now are asking the Fed Gov/FEMA to act and give them billions in recovery. Oh how the world turns"

My question is, what the hell is he talking about? I asked him to elaborate but I got nothing. So then I said "Which Republican families are at fault for the worse winter storm in a century?" Again just jabbing and trying to provoke an answer, which I never got it.

So, what families is he talking about and what did they do? Or is this just another left wing media talking point that he read somewhere and is regurgitating it? Genuinely curious.

I know, CSB, wall of text, etc.
Posted by GhostOfFreedom
Member since Jan 2021
11645 posts
Posted on 2/18/21 at 10:24 am to
I don't know, but I am happy that Texas has a separate power grid system than the rest of the country. That is the first I had heard of it. Yeah, they are suffering right now, but this will be a good learning experience where they can harden their grid.

I am terrified of a longer term destruction of our grid. A few days we can survive without too much human loss, but months will kill hundreds of thousands. EMP or Solar Flare hardening, as well as, securing against foreign (CCP) hacking and hardware trojans (Biden lifted Trump's ban on enemy equipment in our grid system).

We need multiple independent grids instead of one massive, vulnerable system.

Posted by FATBOY TIGER
Valhalla
Member since Jan 2016
8815 posts
Posted on 2/18/21 at 10:27 am to
Rhymes with push.
Posted by TexasTiger58
Lafayette
Member since Oct 2004
168 posts
Posted on 2/18/21 at 10:28 am to
Texans are always blaming "a few wealthy families"...from the state of Texas football to apparently now, the power grid failure. Your friend has probably had a few conversations with a local well versed in this blame game. Yes we are having severe issues here, but are a few families behind this? Seriously, this sounds like a plot line from the old TV show Dallas. Some people took that show to heart and perpetuated the myths that still exist with a generation that never knew who shot JR
Posted by Strannix
District 11
Member since Dec 2012
48832 posts
Posted on 2/18/21 at 10:29 am to
Federal regulations are 100% the reason Texas has closed scores of coal plants the last 10 years, with two more in East Texas on the chopping block, get used to rolling blackouts.

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This post was edited on 2/18/21 at 10:32 am
Posted by GATORGAR247
Member since Aug 2017
993 posts
Posted on 2/18/21 at 10:32 am to
We can have rolling blackouts to cover Texas only or we can tie into the main grid and have rolling black outs when things are fine here but going to shite in other states.. Kansas and other states are doing it now.
Posted by Tridentds
Sugar Land
Member since Aug 2011
20323 posts
Posted on 2/18/21 at 10:36 am to
quote:

Interesting how the largest electrical failure in the past 30 years of Texas comes after a few wealthy families who came together to deregulate the electrical grid, supported some of those "green" initiatives, and now have millions without power, while price gouging millions because they wanted the Fed Gov out of Texas. But now are asking the Fed Gov/FEMA to act and give them billions in recovery. Oh how the world turns"



Just reply... "CALIFORNIA". That ought to shut him up. They regulate the frick out of the electrical industry and require all kinds of shite yet have rolling brownouts every summer for years and there is no end in sight.
Posted by Paddyshack
Land of the Free
Member since Sep 2015
8177 posts
Posted on 2/18/21 at 10:37 am to
Just the fact that he didnt elaborate at all, when normally he does to at least some degree, leads me to believe there isnt much validity to it. But I was curious nonetheless to see if the great people of the PB knew what he meant.
Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2006
32194 posts
Posted on 2/18/21 at 10:41 am to
quote:

The response: "Interesting how the largest electrical failure in the past 30 years of Texas comes after a few wealthy families who came together to deregulate the electrical grid, supported some of those "green" initiatives, and now have millions without power, while price gouging millions because they wanted the Fed Gov out of Texas. But now are asking the Fed Gov/FEMA to act and give them billions in recovery. Oh how the world turns"

Didn't the "deregulation" take place like 50 years ago. When was ERCOT formed?
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