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re: Question for our resident Leftists regarding islam:

Posted on 4/16/19 at 1:22 pm to
Posted by Ten Bears
Florida
Member since Oct 2018
4756 posts
Posted on 4/16/19 at 1:22 pm to
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don’t defend Islam. I’m a Christian. I own a couple guns and respect free speech and religion.


Yes, you express your moderate views daily...I can't believe no one in here is convinced.
Posted by Joe Smo 1234
Member since Apr 2019
470 posts
Posted on 4/16/19 at 1:23 pm to
After doing quite a bit of research on this so-called Mohammed I found a couple critical points...the Koran was written hundreds of years/ several generations after he supposedly lived(why would one trust anything in such a text)...there is not a shred of actual evidence he ever existed...only legends...my thought is this..."Mohammed" was a concoction/archetypal figure that was used to unify the many divided warring tribes to oppose to encroaching Jews and Christians into their traditional territories. And several great scholars agree with me.
Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
27595 posts
Posted on 4/16/19 at 1:24 pm to
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but because conservatives are against Muslims


What does that even mean? "Against Muslims." How are conservatives "against Muslims?" Are you proposing to exclude them from American society based upon religion alone? Are you proposing to exterminate them here and around the world? Or does this just mean tweeting out stupid thinks on the Internet?

The great ideology of so called "conservatives" may need a little intelligent adjustment.
Posted by Smeg
Member since Aug 2018
14457 posts
Posted on 4/16/19 at 1:24 pm to
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 all we believe in is the US Constitution and the ideals behind it. That’s pretty much all. 

Like the 2nd Amendment?
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 4/16/19 at 1:25 pm to
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what’s your point?


My point is that the Left are dishonest about islam.....

They will IGNORE the misogyny, the murder, the slavery and the INNUMERABLE problems with the religion.....

I would be content if the Left would recognize there is an INCREDIBLE incompatibility with many of the beliefs held by the majority of muslims and Western Civilization....

I would be happy with HONEST talk about islam from the Left in the Media, on message boards, Social Media and the culture at large, but alas, islam is coddled and treated as if any criticism of this particular cult should be met with beheading....well, I guess it often is, but you know what I mean....
Posted by Possumslayer
Pascagoula
Member since Jan 2018
6474 posts
Posted on 4/16/19 at 1:26 pm to
Islam is in a holy war with Christianity.
Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
27595 posts
Posted on 4/16/19 at 1:27 pm to
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And several great scholars agree with me.


Great. It may or may not be true. Frankly, in America, we don't care. We don't care whether there are gold tablets stashed in upstate New York somewhere. We don't care if the world grew like a lotus flower out of Vishnu's navel. We don't care.

If you infringe on others based upon religion or any other motivation, we prosecute you. As for whether your religion is based upon verifiable truth, we don't give a shite.
Posted by Joe Smo 1234
Member since Apr 2019
470 posts
Posted on 4/16/19 at 1:27 pm to
Without the 2nd Amendment, there is no freedom; only tyranny!
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 4/16/19 at 1:27 pm to
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What does that even mean? "Against Muslims." How are conservatives "against Muslims?"


OK, so can we say we DESPISE islam, but we love and pray for those who ignorantly follow it?

Would that be OK?

Sort of the way you guys on the Left "hated the War but supported the troops" or a variation thereof?

An honest, intellectual look at islam paints a picture of a very, very evil piece of zhit who killed, raped and enslaved people while creating this cult....
This post was edited on 4/16/19 at 1:29 pm
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 4/16/19 at 1:30 pm to
Again I ask: Do you use your magical Constitutional shield to defend Nazis with the same vigor you do the people that follow what is certainly a very dangerous Cult?
Posted by fillmoregandt
OTM
Member since Nov 2009
14368 posts
Posted on 4/16/19 at 1:30 pm to
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What does that even mean? "Against Muslims." How are conservatives "against Muslims?" A


That could have been worded better, as I don’t think conservatives are necessarily “against” Muslims.

But I don’t think it’s a stretch to say that a conversative, Western society tends to ‘clash’ with a sharia law, Muslim world.
Posted by Joe Smo 1234
Member since Apr 2019
470 posts
Posted on 4/16/19 at 1:30 pm to
All religions have done the same forever...it's all tribal in nature
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 4/16/19 at 1:31 pm to
Stop avoiding the question: What is unique to islam that compels you and your Comrades to have such a hard-on in defending it?
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
48158 posts
Posted on 4/16/19 at 1:32 pm to
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all we believe in is the US Constitution and the ideals behind it.

If you are part of the “we” you quote then you are a liar.
Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
27595 posts
Posted on 4/16/19 at 1:32 pm to
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They will IGNORE the misogyny, the murder, the slavery and the INNUMERABLE problems with the religion.....


No, that it absolutely incorrect. Over the last century we have worked through international organizations and through trade relationships to press for human rights around the world. We have had success in that area.

Guess who withdrew the U.S. from the Human Rights Council? Go ahead, guess.

The American so-called conservatives, like the idiots in this thread, refuse to promote human rights around the world. Do you know why? Because you don't believe in human rights. You find them inconvenient. You don't believe in free religion.

We either lead on this issue or we don't.

But you hate "mussies" soooooo much. Yet you write just like they do in the internet. Good work.

What do you believe?
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 4/16/19 at 1:36 pm to
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All religions have done the same forever...it's all tribal in nature


No, not true.

Christianity was never about war, slavery, rape or conversion at the point of the sword, islam always was.

Christianity was about this dude named Jesus who said he was here to get rid of the old ways and paid a pretty hefty price for it....

islam waters flow from a poisoned source, mohammed was a warmonger, a pedophile a misogynist and a slave-owner and there was never a "rebirth"....

I'm not talking about the FOLLOWERS of islam now, I'm talking about the SOURCE of islam....
Posted by Joe Smo 1234
Member since Apr 2019
470 posts
Posted on 4/16/19 at 1:37 pm to
There is no practical need for any religion in today's world. Let's all quit being a coward. How about facing life & death bravely and quit deluding ourselves with these ancient methods of dealing with our demise! Personally this is how I live each day! But that's just me. I personally love reality!
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 4/16/19 at 1:37 pm to
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Guess who withdrew the U.S. from the Human Rights Council?


That's because the Human Rights Council was a joke....

Sort of like putting Rosie O'Donnell in charge of the cookies....
Posted by RIPMachoMan
Member since Jun 2011
8602 posts
Posted on 4/16/19 at 1:37 pm to
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Christianity was never about war,


carry on
Posted by 93and99
Dayton , Oh / Allentown , Pa
Member since Dec 2018
14400 posts
Posted on 4/16/19 at 1:37 pm to
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TBoy


You Liberals sure don't understand economics .

You want us to take care of the world , illegals , pay for your college and healthcare , all the while only half of the country pays Federal Income Taxes .

So stupid !
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