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re: Putin was allowed to speak on Croatia TV per X? Did not see a post. Interesting if True.

Posted on 3/8/25 at 6:02 pm to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 3/8/25 at 6:02 pm to
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I skipped your questions because I don’t know what you’re talking about with Ukrainian intervention in the EU.

-inteverntion
+integration

The European Union–Ukraine Association Agreement that began in 2008 LINK

Posted by Proximo
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Posted on 3/8/25 at 6:03 pm to
Let’s also ask ourselves, when did Hunter Biden get involved with Ukraine, wasn’t it 2014? Weird how the math checks out on that one along with the pardon date

Another weird thing is the Joe Biden tape where he brags about getting the prosecutor fired for looking into Burisma occurred in early 2018.

Yanukovych was charged for treason in 2017, same year much of the Burisma actions in Ukraine took place
This post was edited on 3/8/25 at 6:04 pm
Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
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Posted on 3/8/25 at 6:03 pm to
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I framed the question from the "Globalists" or "West" started the war in Ukraine in 2022. You may want to change this argument





Globalists and West in quotations...


and they didn't start anything in 2022 - go back and suck Rachel Maddow's MSNBC dick you idiot


I knew a few people at my last job who believed the stupid shite you believe, and got it all from MSNBC - they were female janitors
Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
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Posted on 3/8/25 at 6:05 pm to
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They dont want influence from moscow





Zero of the Soviet Union was funded from Moscow
Posted by Proximo
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Posted on 3/8/25 at 6:06 pm to
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inteverntion +integration The European Union–Ukraine Association Agreement that began in 2008

Oh okay, this makes sense.

I’m still confused because the west wouldn't thwart integration per your question.

Russia would thwart it after being provoked for over a decade though

The natural conclusion of EU integration is NATO Membership
This post was edited on 3/8/25 at 6:08 pm
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 3/8/25 at 6:07 pm to
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and they didn't start anything in 2022

The invasion of Ukraine in 2022 is the war people keep referencing.

And my questions started in 2013, not 2022, focused on the 2 actions that led to Maidain:

1. Yanukovych thwarting EU-Ukraine integration at the 11th hour, to the shock of the EU, the Rada, and the population of Ukraine

2. Yanukovych signing a trade deal with Russia to the shock of the EU, the Rada, and the population of Ukraine

The response to this is what is being described as a "coup" that was non-organic and created by the "West" or "Globalists"

Arguing "The West" or "Globalists" started this first requires answering why they had Yanukovych do 1 and 2 above.

Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
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Posted on 3/8/25 at 6:07 pm to
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I skipped your questions because I don’t know what you’re talking about with Ukrainian intervention in the EU.




He doesn't know either. He's just throwing shite against the wall.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 3/8/25 at 6:09 pm to
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I’m still confused because the west would thwart integration per your question.

Why? Also, are we removing the EU from both "The West" and "globalist" categorization? I don't think that's going to get a very large amount of support.

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Russia would thwart it after being provoked for over a decade though

Well that makes my argument palatable and devastate the "West caused the coup" argument.

It's just pivoting to a make the conspiracy theory larger once prove wrong.

Also, it still doesn't explain Zelensky and 2019-2022.

quote:

The natural conclusion of EU integration is NATO Membership

Assumption neither in evidence or logic.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 3/8/25 at 6:09 pm to
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He doesn't know either. He's just throwing shite against the wall.



And I said thank you after you pointed out my typo.
Posted by SDVTiger
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Posted on 3/8/25 at 6:10 pm to
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 2008 (Georgia, Estonia, Ukraine 3x, etc.)?


These places are Russian not european
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 3/8/25 at 6:11 pm to
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These places are Russian not european

You mean Slavic?

Yeah, so is most of Eastern Europe who wants nothing to do with Russia. What kind of point did you think you were making?
Posted by texag7
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Posted on 3/8/25 at 6:12 pm to
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He doesn't know either. He's just throwing shite against the wall.


His low IQ is showing again
Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
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Posted on 3/8/25 at 6:12 pm to
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Wrong. They were based on that being the case.






Again, sitting at the kitchen table lying your arse off on the internet, and for what reason??


The rest of us at least know we are either telling the truth when we know it, or being silent if we don't



YOU on the other hand, just sit and lie about shite at the kitchen table, for God knows what reason
Posted by SDVTiger
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Posted on 3/8/25 at 6:12 pm to
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You mean Slavic?


Yeah Russian


quote:

Yeah, so is most of Eastern Europe who wants nothing to do with Russia. What kind of point did you think you were making? ?


That you are an idiot making the claim hes moving in on Europe


Posted by Proximo
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 3/8/25 at 6:13 pm to
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Well that makes my argument palatable and devastate the "West caused the coup" argument.

Bro everyone knows this is the case. Why do you continue to deny it?

CATO Institute:Washington Helped Trigger the Ukraine War The magnitude of the aggressive moves taken by the Pentagon and CIA are just now becoming apparent.
Posted by Strannix
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Posted on 3/8/25 at 6:13 pm to
The fact is the founders and leaders of Global Bolshevism want to destroy us, Russia is standing in their way.
Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
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Posted on 3/8/25 at 6:17 pm to
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Russia would thwart it after being provoked for over a decade though




they were provoked for at least 26 years
Posted by Proximo
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Posted on 3/8/25 at 6:21 pm to
You’re right, I was just coming off discussing 2014 stuff and slipped up. TWO decades.

But we’re conspiracy theorists and NPC’s because we’re discussing the facts
This post was edited on 3/8/25 at 6:21 pm
Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
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Posted on 3/8/25 at 6:21 pm to
Since you left out Donbass and thus began that entire post based on lies



As usual
Posted by SDVTiger
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Posted on 3/8/25 at 6:22 pm to
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But we’re conspiracy theorists and NPC’s because we’re discussing the facts


How dare you bring facts to Zelensky lovers
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