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re: Proud baws convicted in NYC for Antifa fight
Posted on 8/20/19 at 6:00 pm to Armchair_QB
Posted on 8/20/19 at 6:00 pm to Armchair_QB
quote:The fact that a few reactionary numbnuts with the collective IQ of pocket lint have convinced themselves of something does not make it true.
why aren’t man enough to admit you’re a Lib Trash piece of shite?
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Posted on 8/20/19 at 6:36 pm to Turbeauxdog
quote:The thing about any statute is that you must read the ENTIRE statute.quote:imminent use of unlawful physical force by such other person
From the statute:
quote:I am not going to waste time applying this statute to the (unknown) facts, because we do not HAVE the facts about events preceding the start of the video. But if McGrath’s understanding of the facts is accurate, you are left with the argument that several dozen Proud Boys were “reasonable” in fearing “imminent bodily harm” from four skinny little Antifa dorks walking in their direction armed with a water bottle and in thinking that their only viable defense was to aggressively charge said skinny dorks, hurl them to the ground, and beat the crap out of said dorks as they lay curled in a fetal position on the sidewalk.
A person may, subject to the provisions of subdivision two, use
physical force upon another person when and to the extent he or she
reasonably believes such to be necessary to defend himself, herself or a
third person from what he or she reasonably believes to be the use or
imminent use of unlawful physical force by such other person
Pretty sad, given that the lardass Proud Boy with the Game of Thrones beard outweighed any two of the Antifa dorks combined.
quote:That which YOU call “cowardice,” I call a decision not to prejudge a situation without all the facts. Rational people will agree with me. The majority on this forum likely will not.
you see some virtue in playing the middle when it’s really cowardice.
There is also the fact that the jury had access to evidence not available to us at the moment, and that THEY decided “beyond a reasonable doubt” that you are wrong. Your refusal to grasp this concept indicates that you are ... something less than rational and objective — and (perhaps) just a bit biased by your Far Right ideology.
This post was edited on 8/20/19 at 6:51 pm
Posted on 8/20/19 at 6:42 pm to AggieHank86
quote:
The fact that a few reactionary numbnuts with the collective IQ of pocket lint have convinced themselves of something does not make it true.
But your post history is inarguable. Why are you hiding your true beliefs like a coward?
Posted on 8/20/19 at 6:48 pm to arseinclarse
quote:
anhattan DA Cyrus Vance Jr. hailed the convictions as a blow against the rise of extremism and “mob violence.”
yeah, no bias there...
Posted on 8/20/19 at 6:48 pm to Armchair_QB
quote:I have a few beliefs that are certainly “liberal” from your perspective, and a few that are probably Right of you, with the balance being “small government” libertarianism that is completely at odds with the big government authoritarianism espoused by you Trump groupies.
But your post history is inarguable. Why are you hiding your true beliefs like a coward?
Posted on 8/20/19 at 7:53 pm to AggieHank86
quote:
you are left with the argument that several dozen Proud Boys were “reasonable” in fearing “imminent bodily harm” from four skinny little Antifa dorks walking in their direction armed with a water bottle and in thinking that their only viable defense was to aggressively charge said skinny dorks, hurl them to the ground, and beat the crap out of said dorks as they lay curled in a fetal position on the sidewalk.
You’re talking about a group that routinely assaults people with chains, bike locks, bricks, rocks, fire, etc. That is fact.
Who knows what weapons these lunatics have on their person.
The conditions of that statute are clearly met simply due to the arrival of these thugs in their commit violence gear.
quote:
That which YOU call “cowardice,” I call a decision not to prejudge a situation without all the facts. Rational people will agree with me. The majority on this forum likely will not.
No you’re a coward because you’re unwilling to accept objective fact and face the consequences of those facts. And you’ve already prejudged the situation by stating you wish both groups were prosecuted. So is more evidence necessary or not?
quote:
There is also the fact that the jury had access to evidence not available to us at the moment, and that THEY decided “beyond a reasonable doubt” that you are wrong. Your refusal to grasp this concept indicates that you are ... something less than rational and objective — and (perhaps) just a bit biased by your Far Right ideology.
What far right ideology? Is that what we’re labeling honesty and integrity these days?
Posted on 8/20/19 at 8:06 pm to arseinclarse
Antifa has always started fights and attacked others constitutional right to free speech. It is their nature. They are a Anarcho-Communist gang of terrorists.
Posted on 8/20/19 at 8:14 pm to Turbeauxdog
quote:NIH is a big guy . You and five buddies see him walking down a sidewalk and think he looks scary, so you preemptively jump him and beat the crap out of him, including kicking him repeatedly as he lays on the ground without fighting back.quote:You’re talking about a group that routinely assaults people with chains, bike locks, bricks, rocks, fire, etc. That is fact.
you are left with the argument that several dozen Proud Boys were “reasonable” in fearing “imminent bodily harm” from four skinny little Antifa dorks walking in their direction armed with a water bottle and in thinking that their only viable defense was to aggressively charge said skinny dorks, hurl them to the ground, and beat the crap out of said dorks as they lay curled in a fetal position on the sidewalk.
Who knows what weapons these lunatics have on their person.
Sorry dude, but that is NOT “self-defense” in ANY state of this Union.
quote:Only for a pussy so massive that it falls off the left edge of the pussy spectrum.
The conditions of that statute are clearly met simply due to the arrival of these thugs in their commit violence gear.
quote:Yes, both participated in a street brawl. Prosecuting both would allow us to hear both sides and to determine which (if either) was acting in self defense.
you’ve already prejudged the situation by stating you wish both groups were prosecuted. So is more evidence necessary or not?
quote:I have watched you post for a while, and I have seldom seen you post anything remotely reasonable. Yes, I consider you to be Far Right.
What far right ideology? Is that what we’re labeling honesty and integrity these days?
This post was edited on 8/20/19 at 8:55 pm
Posted on 8/21/19 at 7:32 am to Logician
quote:
group up? LOL. it was obviously unplanned.
watch 2:13 of the video. you can hear a noise in the background (when antifa threw something), someone says "oh!", and then they all run that way. you can see the big guy with the maga hat just walking, then running to join in. it doesn't at all appear they were searching for a fight. what was antifa doing there? why did they throw something? who were the real ones looking for conflict?
that video does not defend your antifa sympathies at all, comrade.
"Proudboys... ready?"
So strange to defend a group of skinheads. Even the proudboys leader bailed on them because of it
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