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re: Proof That Democrats Have Raised the White Flag of Surrender on Gun Control
Posted on 4/1/14 at 10:48 pm to trackfan
Posted on 4/1/14 at 10:48 pm to trackfan
quote:Would you not take umbrage if someone called Rick Santorum a liberal democrat?
I didn't realize that Bloomberg's Republicanism was such a sensitive issue for you folks.
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Posted on 4/1/14 at 10:57 pm to RollTide1987
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He's pro-choice, he's pro-gay marriage, he supports at least a few gun control measures, and is in favor of a pathway to citizenship for illegal immigrants.
There are some Republicans who identify with the party strictly for fiscal reasons. Items you listed above as reasons to disqualify him as a Republican are a big reason why many Republicans are now identifying as Independents.
Posted on 4/1/14 at 11:29 pm to Taxing Authority
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Would you not take umbrage if someone called Rick Santorum a liberal democrat?
Not if he was elected as a Democrat. For the record, I don't put much stock in party labels which is why I'm amused by folks that do.
Posted on 4/1/14 at 11:41 pm to trackfan
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Not if he was elected as a Democrat.
quote:It has nothing to do with labels. It has to do with behavior. Bloomy doesn't behave anything like a Republican would be expected to.
For the record, I don't put much stock in party labels which is why I'm amused by folks that do.
Posted on 4/1/14 at 11:45 pm to Taxing Authority
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Bloomy doesn't behave anything like a Republican would be expected to.
That may be true, but he also doesn't behave like a Democrat which is why he knew he could never win the Democratic nomination in NYC.
Posted on 4/1/14 at 11:50 pm to trackfan
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That may be true, but he also doesn't behave like a Democrat
He got elected precisely because he behaves like a democrat. quote:
which is why he knew he could never win the Democratic nomination in NYC.
Yeah. Sure. New Yorkers would never elect a democrat *cough*deblasio*cough*. Posted on 4/2/14 at 12:07 am to Taxing Authority
Do you realize how nonsensical your post is? You're conflating winning nominations with winning the general. DeBlasio did something that Bloomberg knew he could never do, which is win the Democratic nomination. Conversely, Bloomberg did something DeBlasio could never do, which is win the Republican nomination.
This post was edited on 4/2/14 at 12:10 am
Posted on 4/2/14 at 12:28 am to trackfan
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Do you realize how nonsensical your post is?
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You're conflating winning nominations with winning the general. DeBlasio did something that Bloomberg knew he could never do, which is win the Democratic nomination. Conversely, Bloomberg did something DeBlasio could never do, which is win the Republican nomination.
Posted on 4/2/14 at 2:20 am to Jimbeaux
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I don't think you know what they're "scared of".
c'mon. Are you saying there wasn't a mass hysteria and a run on guns and ammo? What did they fear?
"Barry gunna take r guns"
Posted on 4/2/14 at 2:50 am to Napoleon
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c'mon. Are you saying there wasn't a mass hysteria and a run on guns and ammo? What did they fear?
"Barry gunna take r guns"
Unfortunately this was a big fear of a lot of dumb asses! And now ammo is expensive and hard to come by and gun prices have gone up! Luckily shite has started to calm down!
Posted on 4/2/14 at 5:26 am to trackfan
They will never stop, they will suffer the setback and try, try again.
Posted on 4/2/14 at 5:35 am to Napoleon
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c'mon. Are you saying there wasn't a mass hysteria and a run on guns and ammo? What did they fear?
"Barry gunna take r guns"
Fear of the raging rampant stupidity of the left side of the political equation is no vice.
They deserve contempt and scorn but there are so many of them and they breed like rabbits and they believe simple majorities settle matters of fact.
Posted on 4/2/14 at 5:57 am to trackfan
Good, maybe now I can stop seeing those stupid "THEY GUNNA TAKE R GUNS IMPEACH" memes on facebook
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Posted on 4/2/14 at 7:50 am to trackfan
How long after winning as a Republican did it take him to come out of the Independent closet?
Posted on 4/2/14 at 10:05 am to trackfan
No ear or eye protection. Stupid.
Posted on 4/2/14 at 11:25 am to Napoleon
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c'mon. Are you saying there wasn't a mass hysteria and a run on guns and ammo? What did they fear? "Barry gunna take r guns"
You are implying that the fears were unfounded because the attempts were unsuccessful?
Posted on 4/2/14 at 12:19 pm to FightinTigersDammit
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Bloomberg is one guy who can truly and accurately be called a RINO.
This is really curious in American politics.
Apparently the Republican party requires someone to pass ALL tests to be considered a party member, one failed test and they're labeled a liberal.
Is this the same for Democrats? If someone doesn't pass one test, are they labeled a conservative?
Example: James Brady is registered as a Republican, but due to his stand on gun control, he is a liberal (RINO). If you don't exhibit ALL attributes of a conservative, you are not a true Republican.
Ted Kennedy was against abortion, therefore one would conclude the Democrats would label him a conservative (DINO). Ted Kennedy was NEVER considered anything but a staunch, liberal Democrat. If you exhibit ONE attribute of a liberal, you are a Democrat.
It seems to me the test for R is exclusive, while the test for D is inclusive. Does anyone else see that?
Posted on 4/2/14 at 12:39 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
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Ted Kennedy was against abortion, therefore one would conclude the Democrats would label him a conservative (DINO). Ted Kennedy was NEVER considered anything but a staunch, liberal Democrat. If you exhibit ONE attribute of a liberal, you are a Democrat.
Bob Casey is also anti-abortion but got reelected without being primaried, not to mention the dozens of pro-gun Democrats in Congress, including Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid.
Posted on 4/2/14 at 12:50 pm to trackfan
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not to mention the dozens of pro-gun Democrats in Congress, including Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid.
Exactly. Being pro-gun doesn't exclude one from the Democratic party, but being anti-gun DOES exclude one from the Republican party.
It's as if there's the Party of Ideological Purity, and then there's everyone else.
Why is this?
Posted on 4/2/14 at 1:12 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
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It's as if there's the Party of Ideological Purity, and then there's everyone else.
You can exactly flip the parties on abortion, WT - there are a lot more RINOs, then blue dogs - I can tell you that.
Outside the deep south, blue dogs are virtually extinct. Heck, RINOs are everywhere - running the national party, leading the Senate Minority Caucus and sitting in the House Speaker's chair.
This post was edited on 4/2/14 at 1:13 pm
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