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re: Proof That Democrats Have Raised the White Flag of Surrender on Gun Control
Posted on 4/2/14 at 3:47 pm to Taxing Authority
Posted on 4/2/14 at 3:47 pm to Taxing Authority
"Blue Dog" isn't really a Democratic analog of "RINO". Blue Dogs are still seen as Democrats, just fiscally conservative Democrats. I think the TEA party members would be more analogous to Blue Dogs.
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Posted on 4/2/14 at 3:49 pm to Chimlim
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Wrong. liberals are never going to give up on this. Even though they know how majority of America feels about it - they understand their one big chance to pass strict gun laws is after a tragic shooting crime that makes national news. liberals will push hard to pass their gun laws within 2 weeks - 1 month after the news story, before people start forgetting about it. Taking advantage of a country that is grieving and not thinking clearly is the liberals' biggest opportunity to pass their dream gun control bills.
Fixed.
Posted on 4/2/14 at 3:56 pm to Taxing Authority
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Exactly. Harry Reid isn't a blue dog, so this isn't really a blue dog issue
Harry Reid is a pro-gun Democrat which makes him a Blue Dog in my book.
Posted on 4/2/14 at 3:59 pm to Chimlim
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Wrong. Democrats are never going to give up on this. Even though they know how majority of America feels about it - they understand their one big chance to pass strict gun laws is after a tragic shooting crime that makes national news. Democrats will push hard to pass their gun laws within 2 weeks - 1 month after the news story, before people start forgetting about it. Taking advantage of a country that is grieving and not thinking clearly is the democrats' biggest opportunity to pass their dream gun control bills.
But if they couldn't get anything passed after something as horrific as the Newtown massacre, how will they evfer get anything passed?
Posted on 4/2/14 at 4:08 pm to trackfan
quote:Interesting. In guess if you want to define it that way (I wouldn't). It's certainly a purity test.
Harry Reid is a pro-gun Democrat which makes him a Blue Dog in my book.
Kinda invalidates WT's claims one can be a RINO based on a single issue, but democrats are more tolerant.
Posted on 4/2/14 at 4:09 pm to trackfan
quote:Wave election. Just like they did with Obamacare.
But if they couldn't get anything passed after something as horrific as the Newtown massacre, how will they evfer get anything passed?
Posted on 4/2/14 at 4:10 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
quote:I'm not sure a direct analogy exists.
"Blue Dog" isn't really a Democratic analog of "RINO". Blue Dogs are still seen as Democrats, just fiscally conservative Democrats. I think the TEA party members would be more analogous to Blue Dogs.
Posted on 4/2/14 at 4:15 pm to goldennugget
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I will say one thing, if gun control wasn't going to happen after Sandy Hook its dead for at least a generation
It will take at least two generations. A poll came out fairly recently that said younger Americans back the right to own "assault weapons" by a large majority.
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The fact that americans of all stripes and colors love their guns should be quite obvious over the fact that two districts in Colorado that went heavily Obama in 2012 actually recalled their state senators over the radical gun control views.
And this.
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This is D.O.A. once it gets to Harry Reid's desk.
It wouldn't be a bill. It would be a reinterpretation of the law via executive order or something of the sort.
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He's by no means a conservative. That's for damn sure. He's pro-choice, he's pro-gay marriage, he supports at least a few gun control measures, and is in favor of a pathway to citizenship for illegal immigrants. He's also very much in favor of the welfare state and is a believer in man-made global climate change.
Which of those precludes someone from being a conservative? I can understand if they're too pro choice or pro gun control or pro welfare state, but that's about it.
This post was edited on 4/2/14 at 4:29 pm
Posted on 4/2/14 at 4:34 pm to M1911
To borrow a football analogy, the debate over gun control isn't being fought at midfield between the 40-yard lines, it's being fought with the Democrats pinned up near their own goal inside the 5-yard line trying to prevent a safety. Besides the two pictures in the OP, here's a video that proves what I'm talking about.
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