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re: Prior to Roe v Wade being overturned I had no idea that abortions were that common.
Posted on 11/18/23 at 11:26 am to Antoninus
Posted on 11/18/23 at 11:26 am to Antoninus
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When boiled down to its basics, the current regimen gives each of the two parties "control"
No, its that theyve decided it totally belongs to the woman.
Its her body, her choice. He has no say in the matter.
Women cant have it both ways. Its hers, or its theirs.
This post was edited on 11/18/23 at 11:27 am
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Posted on 11/18/23 at 11:37 am to RogerTheShrubber
You asked a question. I answered it. You did not like the answer and got combative.
I should have known better than trying.
I should have known better than trying.
Posted on 11/18/23 at 11:39 am to Antoninus
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Prior to Roe v Wade being overturned I had no idea that abortions were that common.
Correct. There are a lot of terrible people in this world.
Posted on 11/18/23 at 11:40 am to Antoninus
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. You did not like the answer and got combative.
Its not combative, you just get feelings hurt too easily.
If its her choice to keep or not, and he has no say, then he isnt obligated to care for the baby. If its her body, then he has no choice or obligation.
Women cant have it both ways. Its their choice or its her choice.
This post was edited on 11/18/23 at 11:41 am
Posted on 11/18/23 at 11:47 am to RogerTheShrubber
The man has “control” up until the last point at which he was the physical capacity to exercise control. If the woman wants to be pregnant, she cannot get that way if the man chooses not to ejaculate. Pretending otherwise is just being combative for the sake of being pugnacious.
YES, the last point at which SHE is able to exercise physical control IS later than his. It is just biology.
Again, not a perfect solution, but there IS no perfect solution.
YES, the last point at which SHE is able to exercise physical control IS later than his. It is just biology.
Again, not a perfect solution, but there IS no perfect solution.
Posted on 11/18/23 at 11:50 am to Antoninus
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The man has “control” up until the last point at which he was the physical capacity to exercise control.
If the man has no say in abortion or no abortion, he bears no responsibility for the child as the woman made the decision.
Its her body, its her choice to have the child, its her responsbility
Posted on 11/18/23 at 11:52 am to CoachChappy
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Imagine murdering someone
Imagine surgically ripping a baby out of a mother’s womb. It’s barbaric.
And if we can accept that a mother can kill her own child, how can we tell other people not to kill one another?
Mother Teresa
Posted on 11/18/23 at 11:58 am to RogerTheShrubber
quote:You asked why the law is what it is, and I told you.
If the man has no say in abortion or no abortion, he bears no responsibility for the child as the woman made the decision. Its her body, its her choice to have the child, its her responsbility
If you want to argue that it should be otherwise, you can do that by yourself. I answered the question that you were whining “no one will answer.”
Posted on 11/18/23 at 12:00 pm to Antoninus
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Antoninus
Bro just go back to posting under AggieHank. We all know who you are.
Posted on 11/18/23 at 12:01 pm to Antoninus
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You asked why the law is what it is, and I told you.
No I didnt.
Hank we are discussing opinion, you dont have any. You have to borrow others thoughts.
If the woman makes the decision to carry or not all by herself, the man should not be obligated to pay for her CHOICE.
Posted on 11/18/23 at 12:09 pm to RogerTheShrubber
The man makes the choice to RISK paying child support when he chooses a bareback spooge. That WAS his choice.
You just do not like the fact that the woman’s last point of physical control is after his last point.
If no man was responsible for child support after blowing his load, no man would ever pull out, and we would have even more kids with no financial support than we have now. Every legislature in the country has seen that as “bad policy.”
You just do not like the fact that the woman’s last point of physical control is after his last point.
If no man was responsible for child support after blowing his load, no man would ever pull out, and we would have even more kids with no financial support than we have now. Every legislature in the country has seen that as “bad policy.”
This post was edited on 11/18/23 at 12:12 pm
Posted on 11/18/23 at 12:11 pm to Antoninus
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The man makes the choice to RISK paying child support when he chooses a bareback spooge
Doest matter, her body, her choice.
She got pregnant, the man has no say in the matter any further.
Women want it both ways, which is absolute bullshite.
Posted on 11/18/23 at 12:15 pm to RogerTheShrubber
You continue to overlook that this analysis ALSO gives the man the full ability to control whether there will be a pregnancy up to the point of ejaculation. His last point of having that control just ends earlier than the woman’s.
Again, every legislature in the country has seen your approach as being very bad policy. I agree. It is GOOD policy to give each participant the right to control his/her own body up until the last point at which (s)he can do so, and NOT to extend that right past that point, so that the State (rather than the father) does not end up supporting most kids.
Again, every legislature in the country has seen your approach as being very bad policy. I agree. It is GOOD policy to give each participant the right to control his/her own body up until the last point at which (s)he can do so, and NOT to extend that right past that point, so that the State (rather than the father) does not end up supporting most kids.
This post was edited on 11/18/23 at 12:33 pm
Posted on 11/18/23 at 12:17 pm to Errerrerrwere
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Abortion has killed more AA children than Hitler killed Jews. It's disgusting.
IIRC, abortions kill more AA in one year than the entire history of KKK lynching in this country.
Posted on 11/18/23 at 12:31 pm to Antoninus
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the full ability to control whether there will be a pregnancy.
No, in no case is this true.
Posted on 11/18/23 at 12:37 pm to RogerTheShrubber
quote:Can the woman get herself pregnant, if the man CHOOSES not to ejaculate?
the full ability to control whether there will be a pregnancy.quote:
No, in no case is this true.
Simple yes/no question.
If “no” ( which is obviously the answer), does the man have control at that point or not?
Posted on 11/18/23 at 12:41 pm to Antoninus
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Can the woman get herself pregnant,
Does the man know if shes ovulating, and does the man know shes not taking pills?
Its her body, its her choice.
If its solely her choice, its solely her child.
Posted on 11/18/23 at 12:41 pm to CoachChappy
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Imagine surgically ripping a baby out of a mother’s womb. It’s barbaric.
Posted on 11/18/23 at 12:47 pm to TigerVespamon
Some humans dont have the ability to bond, thats all I can figure.
to them another human is just a blob of cells, nothing special.
to them another human is just a blob of cells, nothing special.
Posted on 11/18/23 at 1:21 pm to RogerTheShrubber
Then you have the issue of non-life comaptible pregnancies...S@@@ happens, I've lived it, not every pregnancy results in a healthy fetus (or one that is fully there)
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