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re: Poll. republicans blame congress, not Trump for healthcare
Posted on 3/29/17 at 4:43 pm to League Champs
Posted on 3/29/17 at 4:43 pm to League Champs
quote:Well the maximum MOE of the sample size (MOE at 0.5) of 1332 is 2.59. But since the MOE deceases the further estimates are from 0.5, it's actually smaller.
because 3% isn't close to the MOE, or anything?
Regardless if an estimate us within the MOE or not, a higher estimate in a sample is still more likely to be higher in the population.
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Posted on 3/29/17 at 4:43 pm to MButterfly
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blame congress, not Trump for healthcare
No shite.
Posted on 3/29/17 at 4:49 pm to chalmetteowl
LINK
this Stephanie Grace article says it...
Republicans say they want to repeal but they don't want to lose their power for it...
this Stephanie Grace article says it...
Republicans say they want to repeal but they don't want to lose their power for it...
Posted on 3/29/17 at 4:56 pm to Tiguar
quote:
everyone hates Congress but loves their congressman
My congressman is the most extreme right wing conservative congressman in US history. Why should I not like him?
Posted on 3/29/17 at 5:00 pm to MButterfly
They should. The blame for Trump is he didn't try or try hard enough to oust Ryan.
Ryan is Speaker. He couldn't even get a bill close enough to vote on.
Plus both Houses already passed tough bills and sent them to Obama. Now that they have someone to sign them they are too cowardly to send them up.
They deserve far more ridicule than Trump and anyone with half a brain should see this. Problem is too many people on the left have Trump in their head and can't let it go.
Ryan failed. Both houses are full of fakes. They deserve constant mockery until they vote on a repeal.
Ryan is Speaker. He couldn't even get a bill close enough to vote on.
Plus both Houses already passed tough bills and sent them to Obama. Now that they have someone to sign them they are too cowardly to send them up.
They deserve far more ridicule than Trump and anyone with half a brain should see this. Problem is too many people on the left have Trump in their head and can't let it go.
Ryan failed. Both houses are full of fakes. They deserve constant mockery until they vote on a repeal.
Posted on 3/29/17 at 5:00 pm to TigerMyth36
quote:Or not compromising on one of the costliest parts of Obamacare.
The blame for Trump is he didn't try or try hard enough to oust Ryan.
Posted on 3/29/17 at 5:01 pm to buckeye_vol
quote:
Well the maximum MOE of the sample size (MOE at 0.5) of 1332 is 2.59. But since the MOE deceases the further estimates are from 0.5, it's actually smaller.
Regardless if an estimate us within the MOE or not, a higher estimate in a sample is still more likely to be higher in the population.
Really? You typed all that verify that the number of people who blame Trump more than they do Ryan, could actually be VERY small?
Posted on 3/29/17 at 5:02 pm to League Champs
quote:Actually the opposite since that would mean millions of people.
Really? You typed all that verify that the number of people who blame Trump more than they do Ryan, could actually be VERY small?
This post was edited on 3/29/17 at 5:03 pm
Posted on 3/29/17 at 5:04 pm to MButterfly
quote:
Poll. republicans blame congress, not Trump for healthcare
Why would they blame Trump? I think it's pretty clear that congress can't even agree on a fix.
This post was edited on 3/29/17 at 5:05 pm
Posted on 3/29/17 at 5:08 pm to member12
quote:So he gets credit for the stock market, every new job that a company announces, but he can't get any blame for pushing a terrible policy?
Why would they blame Trump? I think it's pretty clear that congress can't even agree on a fix.
Posted on 3/29/17 at 5:58 pm to buckeye_vol
quote:
Actually the opposite since that would mean millions of people.
Did you even bother to read the internals?
quote:
Republicans
Sample size: 456
Credibility interval: 5.2 pct. pts.
LINK
Posted on 3/29/17 at 6:06 pm to League Champs
quote:I was looking at the entire sample, but the two observed proportions means that there is about an 85% chance that the entire population of Republicans place more blame on Trump. It's just as likely as 6% more place the blame on Trump as equal blame.
Did you even bother to read the internals?
So it's not as significant as when I was using the 1332, but it's still far more likely than not that Republicans blame Trump more than Ryan.
Posted on 3/29/17 at 6:17 pm to buckeye_vol
quote:
but it's still far more likely than not that Republicans blame Trump more than Ryan.
No one argued that point. My contention was that within the MOE, they COULD be equally blamed. In fact, at 5.2% MOE, Ryan COULD actually receive more of the blame if every Republican was to cast an actual 'vote'
a 3% difference within a 5.2% MOE isn't a gloatable difference, as that poster had tried to do (was my point)
Posted on 3/29/17 at 6:20 pm to League Champs
quote:Well there not technically the MOE of the difference of those two proportions; it's actually about 4.3%
No one argued that point. My contention was that within the MOE, they COULD be equally blamed. In fact, at 5.2% MOE, Ryan COULD actually receive more of the blame if every Republican was to cast an actual 'vote'
a 3% difference within a 5.2% MOE isn't a gloatable difference, as that poster had tried to do (was my point)
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