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POLITICO: Freshman Dems feeling the heat as shutdown drags on
Posted on 1/9/19 at 4:05 pm
Posted on 1/9/19 at 4:05 pm
Nancy & Chuck the roof is on fire! Republicans "Let the Mother fricker Burn!"
Freshman House Democrats are ready to shut down the shutdown.
The new class of 60-plus members has been in Congress for less than week only to see the partial government shutdown consume the Capitol and grind nearly everything else to a halt — including action on their campaign promises to overhaul Washington and deliver for voters back home.
Now, as the shutdown drags into Day 19, the frustration is starting to reach a tipping point for some who fear the prolonged stalemate could do real political damage in vulnerable Democratic districts.
“If I am getting comments and contact from my constituents expressing concern that the Democrats are not prioritizing security, then I think we can do better,” said freshman Rep. Abigail Spanberger (D-Va.).
The freshmen arranged an impromptu 90-minute meeting over the weekend at a retreat in rural Virginia because several new members were “freaking out” about the ongoing shutdown and the party’s strategy, according to a Democratic source who requested anonymity to speak candidly.
“I don’t think that it’s the Democrats in the House’s fault that we are in a shutdown,” said Rep. Colin Allred (D-Texas), who attended the huddle in Williamsburg, Va., and is one of two freshman class presidents. “But I do think it’s setting us back in terms of those coalitions we’re trying to build.”
One senior Democratic lawmaker who talked to multiple freshmen after the meeting said there is “a lot of drama” within the class about how to handle the shutdown.
“Do they stay in Washington or do they leave? Does our leadership understand that they’re getting blamed? Do they take their pay or do they give it back?” said the senior Democrat, explaining conversations with freshmen in recent days. “You have a very active freshman class. [And] leadership itself doesn’t agree on how to proceed. ...what bills to bring up, what order to bring them up."
But it’s not just freshmen who are questioning the strategy pursued by Pelosi and Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer. Some veteran Democrats are open to the idea of trying to broker a wide-ranging immigration deal that would include border wall money in exchange for Democratic priorities like securing protections for Dreamers.
The Illinois Democrat said he’s talked to Dreamers in his own district who have told him to “hold my nose and vote” for a deal.
“We are getting pressure from both sides of ‘don’t back down, don’t back down’ but also that these are real people who are hurting and my district is one of them with thousands of federal workers,” said Rep. Katie Hill (D-Calif.), one of two freshman representatives in House leadership.
“I’m not going to rule anything out, I really am not,” Allred added when asked if he would support some border wall funding in exchange for Democratic immigration priorities.
Freshman House Democrats are ready to shut down the shutdown.
The new class of 60-plus members has been in Congress for less than week only to see the partial government shutdown consume the Capitol and grind nearly everything else to a halt — including action on their campaign promises to overhaul Washington and deliver for voters back home.
Now, as the shutdown drags into Day 19, the frustration is starting to reach a tipping point for some who fear the prolonged stalemate could do real political damage in vulnerable Democratic districts.
“If I am getting comments and contact from my constituents expressing concern that the Democrats are not prioritizing security, then I think we can do better,” said freshman Rep. Abigail Spanberger (D-Va.).
The freshmen arranged an impromptu 90-minute meeting over the weekend at a retreat in rural Virginia because several new members were “freaking out” about the ongoing shutdown and the party’s strategy, according to a Democratic source who requested anonymity to speak candidly.
“I don’t think that it’s the Democrats in the House’s fault that we are in a shutdown,” said Rep. Colin Allred (D-Texas), who attended the huddle in Williamsburg, Va., and is one of two freshman class presidents. “But I do think it’s setting us back in terms of those coalitions we’re trying to build.”
One senior Democratic lawmaker who talked to multiple freshmen after the meeting said there is “a lot of drama” within the class about how to handle the shutdown.
“Do they stay in Washington or do they leave? Does our leadership understand that they’re getting blamed? Do they take their pay or do they give it back?” said the senior Democrat, explaining conversations with freshmen in recent days. “You have a very active freshman class. [And] leadership itself doesn’t agree on how to proceed. ...what bills to bring up, what order to bring them up."
But it’s not just freshmen who are questioning the strategy pursued by Pelosi and Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer. Some veteran Democrats are open to the idea of trying to broker a wide-ranging immigration deal that would include border wall money in exchange for Democratic priorities like securing protections for Dreamers.
The Illinois Democrat said he’s talked to Dreamers in his own district who have told him to “hold my nose and vote” for a deal.
“We are getting pressure from both sides of ‘don’t back down, don’t back down’ but also that these are real people who are hurting and my district is one of them with thousands of federal workers,” said Rep. Katie Hill (D-Calif.), one of two freshman representatives in House leadership.
“I’m not going to rule anything out, I really am not,” Allred added when asked if he would support some border wall funding in exchange for Democratic immigration priorities.
This post was edited on 1/9/19 at 4:17 pm
Posted on 1/9/19 at 4:09 pm to MrLSU
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Some veteran Democrats are open to the idea of trying to broker a wide-ranging immigration deal that would include border wall money in exchange for Democratic priorities like securing protections for Dreamers.
I would accept such a compromise and I think the majority of Americans would, too.
Posted on 1/9/19 at 4:16 pm to RollTide1987
This tells you the Democrats are about to cave. When those checks don’t go out on Friday, Trump will have won the war on Monday!
Posted on 1/9/19 at 4:19 pm to MrLSU
If Allred wants to get reelected he'll flip. (Suburban Dallas is his district)
Posted on 1/9/19 at 4:22 pm to RollTide1987
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I would accept such a compromise and I think the majority of Americans would, too.
There's a big rub here. DACA <> Dreamers. "DACA" is a ton of people who we would not, under any circumstances, want here. My suspicion is that Ds will say "Dreamers" but press for "DACA." That should be a hard no. Also, any deal granting legal status for anyone should require all the wall funding.
This post was edited on 1/9/19 at 4:24 pm
Posted on 1/9/19 at 4:42 pm to MrLSU
As I have said in other thread, strategically Trump is doing great with this shutdown.
Who is feeling the pinch? Fed Gov't employees who live check to check. How do they vote? Democrat. No harm to Trump re-election.
Can the new congress do anything right now? No. Result? Clock is ticking before the freshman Ds (especially those in less than blue districts) have to act reasonable in their voting patterns for re-election. That means fewer days to implement crazy socialist strategies and get the votes. Trump wins here to.
Optically who is it hurting? Well given close to 50% of Americans agree with the priority of border security and Trump tries to reasonably work with the democRATS and gets a pouting Pelosi saying no, no, no. I think he is winning the day.
Who is feeling the pinch? Fed Gov't employees who live check to check. How do they vote? Democrat. No harm to Trump re-election.
Can the new congress do anything right now? No. Result? Clock is ticking before the freshman Ds (especially those in less than blue districts) have to act reasonable in their voting patterns for re-election. That means fewer days to implement crazy socialist strategies and get the votes. Trump wins here to.
Optically who is it hurting? Well given close to 50% of Americans agree with the priority of border security and Trump tries to reasonably work with the democRATS and gets a pouting Pelosi saying no, no, no. I think he is winning the day.
Posted on 1/9/19 at 4:59 pm to MrLSU
A lot of the new D reps came from moderate districts that went for Trump.
Those will feel the heat and pressure will mount to pass wall funding for Trump.
Those will feel the heat and pressure will mount to pass wall funding for Trump.
Posted on 1/9/19 at 5:01 pm to MrLSU
America is realizing that Democrats WANT illegal immigration at the end of the day.
Without mass illegal immigration the Democratic party would be effectively dead already.
Without mass illegal immigration the Democratic party would be effectively dead already.
Posted on 1/9/19 at 5:04 pm to RollTide1987
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Some veteran Democrats are open to the idea of trying to broker a wide-ranging immigration deal that would include border wall money in exchange for Democratic priorities like securing protections for Dreamers.
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I would accept such a compromise and I think the majority of Americans would, too.
I would as well but if we can get it done by declaring a state of emergency to get funds from DOD I’d prefer that route unless it takes too long to get through the court system.
Posted on 1/9/19 at 5:09 pm to MrLSU
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Trump will have won the war on Monday!
Really?
Posted on 1/9/19 at 5:18 pm to MrLSU
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The Illinois Democrat said he’s talked to Dreamers in his own district who have told him to “hold my nose and vote” for a deal.
Is there anymore argument as to why illegals are important to the Dems?
Posted on 1/9/19 at 5:54 pm to Mid Iowa Tiger
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Mid Iowa Tiger
Very succinct explanation. A+ for you sir
Posted on 1/9/19 at 6:07 pm to deltaland
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A lot of the new D reps came from moderate districts that went for Trump.
They lied about being "moderate" to get elected, like that great statesman doug jones did.
They were probably told there would be logrolling to swap off votes so they can appear "moderate" occasionally while the dem wins are guaranteed.
frick'em.
Posted on 1/9/19 at 6:44 pm to MrLSU
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“If I am getting comments and contact from my constituents expressing concern that the Democrats are not prioritizing security, then I think we can do better,” said freshman Rep. Abigail Spanberger (D-Va.).
Abigail, you should know that the dims do NOT support security, especially the border. If your constituents were ignorant enough to vote for a dim, then they get what they deserve.
America deserves security at ALL points of entry, especially our unsecured border. You have a chance to change this, but you have chosen to stick with Dumb and Dumber.
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