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Poker is Life, aka, Making Smart Bets in Life, Politics, and Football

Posted on 2/21/18 at 12:12 pm
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 2/21/18 at 12:12 pm
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while Annie Duke is not a very good poker player, her argument is still solid. poker has been exceptionally important to me in honing my ability to analyze decisions to make the best decision and teach myself that even the best decision doesn't always work out

this is kind of necessary during the current histrionic shite fit progressives are throwing. ignoring their emotional-based arguments, they are simply arguing for bad decision-making. the best decision is needed, not the most expedient decision that decreases your short-term emotional status

listen to the part about the confirmatory thinking style v. exploratory thinking style.
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Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 2/21/18 at 12:20 pm to
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while Annie Duke is not a very good poker player,


Interesting. How many bracelets do you have again?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 2/21/18 at 12:21 pm to
she has one, and it was in a women's event back during the Moneymaker era, iirc

*ETA: and i'm not a public face for poker and she's also an alleged scam artist (like her brother)

*ETA: one bracelet, in a dual-sex Omaha Hi/Lo event
This post was edited on 2/21/18 at 12:23 pm
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 2/21/18 at 12:25 pm to
I'm not seeing where it was a women's event

Also see she has over 4 million in WPT winnings

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she's also an alleged scam artist (like her brother)


Alleged as you said and irrelevant to this convo anyway

I just don't understand why you would start your thread by saying this person is not a very good poker player.
This post was edited on 2/21/18 at 12:26 pm
Posted by Haughton99
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Posted on 2/21/18 at 12:25 pm to
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while Annie Duke is not a very good poker player,



That's being generous. She's terrible.

And a scam artist.

Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 2/21/18 at 12:26 pm to
And if she's such a scam artist why didn't you lead with that?
Posted by Iosh
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Posted on 2/21/18 at 12:29 pm to
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I just don't understand why you would start your thread by saying this person is not a very good poker player.
Vice signaling

It's like 25% of SFP's schtick
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 2/21/18 at 12:30 pm to
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Alleged as you said and irrelevant to this convo anyway

well she went into poker scams b/c ESPN gave her fame and she was a lifetime loser in poker so she had to use that fame to make money (via some questionable ventures)

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Also see she has over 4 million in WPT winnings

doesn't mean anything

with staking, she didn't earn close to that much plus the question becomes how much in entries did she pay. tournament pros, especially back in the day, were pretty much all losers (except for like Phil Helmuth) long term

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I just don't understand why you would start your thread by saying this person is not a very good poker player.


because anyone who knows anything about poker would immediately discount what she says in the interview for that reason, so i got ahead of the narrative
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 2/21/18 at 12:31 pm to
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Vice signaling

nope

as has been shown. anyone who knows about poker would immediately discount what she said due to being a bad poker player
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 2/21/18 at 12:31 pm to
Thats some high quality spin SFP, bravo
Posted by Yak
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Posted on 2/21/18 at 12:32 pm to
Make Online Poker Legal Again
Posted by Iosh
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Posted on 2/21/18 at 12:33 pm to
Is Bovada not a thing anymore?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 2/21/18 at 12:33 pm to
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And if she's such a scam artist why didn't you lead with that?

because talking about poker as an alleged expert is a different thing than talking about poker as an accused scam artist

her expertise in poker calls into question the assertions in the book, but her book isn't just using poker to make her argument. we'd never get there, however, due to her issues of ability as a player, because people ho follow poker would derail the thread by not allowing any discussion about her arguments by attacking her alleged expertise
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 2/21/18 at 12:33 pm to
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Is Bovada not a thing anymore?

it's Ignition and it's overrun by bots
Posted by BlackHelicopterPilot
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Posted on 2/21/18 at 12:34 pm to
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Poker is Life,


This sounds like one of those "Everything I ever needed to know I learned in kindergarten" things.


'Play the cards you are dealt'
'Be wary of what people say....it could be a bluff'


that kinda thing.

I'm not going to read it. But, I think one could do the "_____ is Life" for nearly any vocation / avocation, pastime, etc.
Posted by Iosh
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Posted on 2/21/18 at 12:35 pm to
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it's Ignition and it's overrun by bots
Sounds pretty profitable until DeepMind solves six-handed NLHE
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 2/21/18 at 12:36 pm to
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Thats some high quality spin SFP, bravo

it's not spin

here's a two plus two thread on her. this is what i was trying to avoid

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from my personal experience, she is basically Satan

I don't think there are very many people in the poker community who have anything nice to say about this woman.

She is awful on multiple levels.


Posted by Mephistopheles
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Posted on 2/21/18 at 12:36 pm to
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while Annie Duke is not a very good poker player, her argument is still solid. poker has been exceptionally important to me in honing my ability to analyze decisions to make the best decision and teach myself that even the best decision doesn't always work out


It taught me how poor I am at reading people and how good they tend to be at reading me. Something I probably would never have critically examined about myself. I put some serious time into studying body language and facial expressions, to learn explicitly the stuff that most people, even many children, are implicitly better at than I am.

It was frustrating because body language is not a slam dunk deal, it's contextual. I gave up trying to analyze people second by second and went to a strategy of just "playing my hands" IRL. Then I met the woman who would become my wife and all the stuff I'd learned just happened to click. I could read her like a book and still can.
Posted by Wtodd
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Posted on 2/21/18 at 12:38 pm to
You got to know when to hold 'em, know when to fold 'em
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 2/21/18 at 12:38 pm to
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Sounds pretty profitable until DeepMind solves six-handed NLHE

solvers aren't the future, as long as people are playing

GTO only gives you the perfect defense, but you will be -EV with the rake. exploitative play is still how to profit and that's non-GTO

Ignition is dangerous primarily b/c it's anonymous so impossible to track bots
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