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re: Pelosia & Schumer release statement in re. Trump bitch slapping Germany at NATO

Posted on 7/11/18 at 1:48 pm to
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
64283 posts
Posted on 7/11/18 at 1:48 pm to
Germany has given more cash and thus power to Russia (21 Billion in 2017 alone) than all of DJT's words combined don't you think?

Do we really spend billions to defend Germany from Russia as Germany sends billions to that very same Russia while reducing their own defense spending?

Tell me this doesn't make sense to you please.
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
TeamBunt General Manager
Member since Apr 2013
62514 posts
Posted on 7/11/18 at 1:49 pm to
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When we called for our NATO allies to join us in the hunt for Bin Laden.


Their contributions were pawltry at best. And even then we paid for most of even their contributions.
Posted by cahoots
Member since Jan 2009
9134 posts
Posted on 7/11/18 at 1:50 pm to
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Not true. You were mistaken about 2% not being the requirement until 2024. It has been the requirement the entire time.



The problem is that 2% was decided a while back, but it wasn't given teeth. The expectation was not that every NATO country would immediately be at 2%+ following the first agreement. That would mean some countries doubling military spending overnight. Obviously unreasonable.

But subjectively, many countries did not uphold the spirit of the goal even if it had no official timeline back then.

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I have not made any assumptions, btw. I simply pointed out you have already admitted we pay at least 68 percent, and what you chose to bitch about isn't that....it's that trump said it was more. Can you see how I might find that a little silly?



It's not just the 90%. It's the exaggerated trade deficit with Germany. It's the tariff figures. It's not constantly inflating or cherry picking numbers that are either wrong or misleading. Exactly what the media does
This post was edited on 7/11/18 at 1:52 pm
Posted by TigerChief10
Member since Dec 2012
10858 posts
Posted on 7/11/18 at 1:50 pm to
It's just so part of the resist ruse at this point. There's no way they actually believe this shite. Good for us the resist no matter what tactic just pushes more people to our side. I hope they never learn.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
73327 posts
Posted on 7/11/18 at 1:50 pm to
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Donnie praises our enemies and attacks our allies...he has done more to advance Russia's interests in the last 2 years then anything else. Putin wants a divided Europe. Better for Russia.



Posted by The Maj
Member since Sep 2016
27063 posts
Posted on 7/11/18 at 1:53 pm to
Dude, seriously stop... You just look plain desperate and stupid at this point...

Every single thing you have complained about has been put back in your face... So quit taking a little civility as an opportunity to convince someone of the bullshite you have been proven wrong over time and again in this thread...

2% was established WAY before 2014, it still doesn't have teeth and we are paying closer to 90% of NATO than we are 50%... So out of 28 countries, you think it is all good the way things are set up?

Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58902 posts
Posted on 7/11/18 at 1:54 pm to
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You are resorting to name-calling. That is the lowest form of argument.
quote:

SOP here


You don't call names, though, do you?

Trumpkins should hang their heads in collective shame.

Barely got Trumpkins on to the screen before pointing fingers at others for calling names.
Posted by TigerChief10
Member since Dec 2012
10858 posts
Posted on 7/11/18 at 1:56 pm to
Don't make such shitty shallow anti American arguments and you may not get called names. In the meantime we will not apologize for offending you.
Posted by UFMatt
Gator Nation - Everywhere
Member since Oct 2010
11435 posts
Posted on 7/11/18 at 1:58 pm to
Batshite crazy.
Posted by cahoots
Member since Jan 2009
9134 posts
Posted on 7/11/18 at 2:00 pm to
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Dude, seriously stop... You just look plain desperate and stupid at this point...

Every single thing you have complained about has been put back in your face... So quit taking a little civility as an opportunity to convince someone of the bullshite you have been proven wrong over time and again in this thread...

2% was established WAY before 2014, it still doesn't have teeth and we are paying closer to 90% of NATO than we are 50%... So out of 28 countries, you think it is all good the way things are set up?


Dude, you told me to off myself before. That's incredibly weak. I play devil's advocate sometimes. Get over it.

I think Trump lies and misleads. I never stated my subjective opinion on NATO. You're just making assumptions.
Posted by TigerChief10
Member since Dec 2012
10858 posts
Posted on 7/11/18 at 2:02 pm to
Learn to take him seriously and not literally instead of literally and not seriously. I can't believe you haven't figured this out yet.
This post was edited on 7/11/18 at 2:04 pm
Posted by The Maj
Member since Sep 2016
27063 posts
Posted on 7/11/18 at 2:04 pm to
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I think Trump lies and misleads.


Tells me all I need to know about how weak your mind is but I can honestly say I have enjoyed watching you lick the windows, bang your head against the wall and get your arse handed to you all day...
This post was edited on 7/11/18 at 2:05 pm
Posted by cahoots
Member since Jan 2009
9134 posts
Posted on 7/11/18 at 2:09 pm to
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Tells me all I need to know about how weak your mind is but I can honestly say I have enjoyed watching you lick the windows, bang your head against the wall and get your arse handed to you all day...



Hey, I'm not taking myself too seriously over here. I'm just laughing at the name-calling and the "go off yourself" posts. Have a nice day bro
Posted by SSpaniel
Germantown
Member since Feb 2013
29658 posts
Posted on 7/11/18 at 2:16 pm to
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Donnie praises our enemies and attacks our allies...he has done more to advance Russia's interests in the last 2 years then anything else.

Posted by hwyman108
Member since Nov 2016
1565 posts
Posted on 7/11/18 at 2:18 pm to
Goddammit you liberals really hate this country. Your President has laid it out as simple as can be how the EU has been “going in dry” on us for decades.
It must really suck to live in a country you have such vile hate for.

Just remember this... To the victor belongs the spoils.
Posted by SSpaniel
Germantown
Member since Feb 2013
29658 posts
Posted on 7/11/18 at 2:24 pm to
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Goddammit you liberals really hate this country.


Sadly, I'd say hate is an understatement.
Posted by ApexTiger
cary nc
Member since Oct 2003
53769 posts
Posted on 7/11/18 at 2:47 pm to
I can't believe these our elected leaders.

they are just pathetic and predictable...

Democrats who defend these kind of statements need to check the number of hours they are watching CNN and MSNBC....because only these 2 outlets could bring an individual to think like this statement...

it's unhinged wacko response...

these people have not a clue how to create real change....

trump is the guy we always needed....he just came in a different form...

This post was edited on 7/11/18 at 2:48 pm
Posted by geauxtigahs87
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2008
26259 posts
Posted on 7/11/18 at 2:48 pm to
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.he has done more to advance Russia's interests in the last 2 years then anything else.

U.S. agrees to send lethal weapons to Ukraine, angering Russia

US general: US Forces killed hundreds of Russians


shite, we bombed Putin's biggest ally in the ME, twice, Trump's talked about increasing military spending, etc.
This post was edited on 7/11/18 at 2:58 pm
Posted by TigerBait1971
PTC GA
Member since Oct 2014
14865 posts
Posted on 7/11/18 at 2:50 pm to
We killed a bunch of Russian mercenaries over there too.

Trump helping out Russia is pure fantasy.
Posted by Prominentwon
LSU, McNeese St. Fan
Member since Jan 2005
93697 posts
Posted on 7/11/18 at 3:05 pm to
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Goddammit you liberals really hate this country.


To be fair, I don’t think they hate the country.

I think they long for a utopia that will never happen in human history. There’s always going to be differences. There’s always going to be fighting between countries. There’s always going to be someone that doesn’t like a certain group of people. It’s been happening since the cavemen.

Except these illogical and lack common sense. Which is infuriating and frustrating. It’s like believing in Santa Claus. Something that has never existed or will never exist because humans are flawed.

Keep dreaming.
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