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Palmer Luckey has been putting on a masterclass about this weekend about H1Bs

Posted on 8/30/26 at 6:14 pm
Posted by stout
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Posted on 8/30/26 at 6:14 pm
Go read his feed and replies. He tweeted a lot this weekend so you have to go through a lot to get to some of it.


He mentions he is for legal proper immigration but not at the expense of replacing Americans or at the expense of bringing in people who don't share American values

His foreign employees are only so he can do business with American allies

He employees so many military veterans that he is in the top 10 of all companies in the USA




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Investors like Paul want the immigration debate to be strictly polar because it is the only way their traitorous ideas might seem reasonable.

They paint one side as racist, backwards, economically illiterate absolutists and the other as enlightened, growth-minded cosmopolitian realists. Support for laws that protect American citizens can be dismissed as uneducated, anyone who hires immigrants or foreigners in any capacity a hypocrite.

American law should, and does, advantage American citizens. We should not have to compete on an even playing field with billions of people who almost universally don't share our values or respect our institutions, even if they are "the most qualified" or willing to work double the hours for the same wages. The men running Operation Paperclip did not think Americans should have to compete with the entire Third World, they understood that a carefully controlled amount of highly-skilled expert immigration is net good for America even when allegience is in question.

It is worth noting that even on a purely economic level, ignoring all burdens of loyalty or allegiance to your countrymen and treating America as nothing but an economic activity zone, it still doesn't make sense to say without qualification that foreigners should get any job where they are more qualified than their American counterpart.

As just one easy example out of dozens, about 20% of immigrants return home after less than five years, taking all their savings and vested shares with them. Another 20% will leave within ten years, doing the same. All the while, they will wire, on average, ~15% of their wages out of the United States economy every month. Some occupations and origins average 30%! The idea that this should be completely ignored with regard to employment and immigration policy is rampant among the same people who tell you with a straight face that limits on immigrants will destroy the American economy, that the dumb rednecks need to be saved.

I lean very libertarian and have strongly supported immigration to America for many years with countless public examples. That doesn't put me on the same side as the men who want to sell out America, and no amount of long-past accomplishment obliges any of us to listen to their lectures from the other side of the Atlantic.












Posted by SaintsTiger
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Posted on 8/30/26 at 7:01 pm to
If there’s a valid, legitimate reason why the foreigner has special talent or access that Americans don’t, then sure that person can get a work permit.
Posted by stout
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Posted on 8/30/26 at 7:06 pm to
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If there’s a valid, legitimate reason why the foreigner has special talent or access that Americans don’t,



It's called an O-1 visa

Shohei Ohtani is on an O-1 for example


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But it is. If this was about extraordinary people with incredible talent, they can already apply for an O-1 visa.

The entire debate is about H1-B, which is ~750,000 focused in a handful of industries. It is triggered by the Trump administration raising fees on H1-B applications. It isn't about a few thousand people.



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Posted by Django Unchained
Member since Sep 2025
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Posted on 8/30/26 at 7:09 pm to
I’m so glad this issue has finally made it to the forefront. North Texas is inundated with Indians who have sacrificed nothing to be here.

The blessings from this country should be reserved for us and for our kids.

Yes, import the “Elon Musks” of the world who can create jobs and wealth for thousands of people.
Posted by KingOfTheWorld
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Posted on 8/30/26 at 7:13 pm to
I don’t have Twitter/X. Give us a synopsis.
Posted by stout
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Posted on 8/30/26 at 7:17 pm to
Posted by HagaDaga
Member since Oct 2020
8848 posts
Posted on 8/31/26 at 5:31 am to
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I thought we wanted a meritocracy?
ridiculous how there are so many people that think that importing cheaper labor fits under this umbrella. Even people on here try to make this "gotcha".
Posted by jp4lsu
Member since Sep 2016
7319 posts
Posted on 8/31/26 at 7:21 am to
Speaking from experience as an engineer in aerospace, I've seen 1st hand the quality of engineering work coming from India and the Indians that were sent here to coordinate and support.
They could process data great but lacked engineering judgement and experience. You don't know the quality of engineers being turned out over. Business types just see cheap and think engineers are just tools or cogs in a wheel that can be plugged in or replaced with not impact to products or efficiency.
Computer programming and coding will be a different story.
I really had no idea Palmer Luckey had these views and it's refreshing.
Posted by stout
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Posted on 8/31/26 at 7:43 am to
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I really had no idea Palmer Luckey had these views and it's refreshing.




After Meta bought Oculus out, Palmer remained on as a Meta employee despite his new billion-dollar net worth, but he was eventually fired for being too based
Posted by stout
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Posted on 8/31/26 at 7:49 am to
Posted by jp4lsu
Member since Sep 2016
7319 posts
Posted on 8/31/26 at 8:17 am to
I didn't realize he stayed on at Meta and was fired. That's crazy.
I will say this about Indian engineers....The Indian engineers that were educated in the states are more well rounded and have had an education based on decades of experienced professors. I don't think the engineering programs in India will have that same quality.
Engineering firms in India hire their engineers at such low rates because they can.....these grades are desperate. So then they can low ball and attract work from overseas, while the engineers are working for slave rates. Those engineers are gone before long when they get a little experience.
Bombardier did just this and sent a lot of work to India for a wing or flaps. They basically had to rework it all with engineers in the states. They learned an expensive lesson.
Posted by lionward2014
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Member since Jul 2015
14631 posts
Posted on 8/31/26 at 9:19 am to
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Shohei Ohtani is on an O-1 for example


Is he? Seems like a P1 would be better. I'm also assuming at this point if he has any desire to live in the US post-career he has an EB1 pending.

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If there’s a valid, legitimate reason why the foreigner has special talent or access that Americans don’t,



It's called an O-1 visa


In theory there can be a need for H-1B labor that doesn't rise to the level of O-1 qualifications, but the abuse of H-1B has distorted that line to a point where it would be hard to actually delineate it at this point.
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