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Posted on 5/31/23 at 11:38 am to Tigereye78
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I believe in the absolute predestination of all things by GOD Almighty. Having said that people think today that the USA of America is still a Constitutional Republic...it isn't.
I.e. slavery was cool because God allowed it, therefore, the South's own tyranny is excused in favor of the greater tyranny of the Union doing what all nations do, which is to resist separatist movements within their own borders.
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It is a Empire that is collapsing under the judgment of GOD for its evil.
Maybe you are being punished for your own evil by being forced to live in a world you seemingly dislike.
Posted on 5/31/23 at 11:40 am to GoblinGuide
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Why are you so mad that a bunch of statues of Democrats got taken down?
Cultural authoritarianism. It's the idea that nothing can be celebrated or exalted unless it meets the definitions of the woke establishment, a group whose own ideals and virtues are constantly evolving in such a manner to where no historic figure can meet their standards. Do you think a society taught to hate its own culture, history and traditions is a good thing?
Posted on 5/31/23 at 11:41 am to GoblinGuide
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Why are you so mad that a bunch of statues of Democrats got taken down?
I'm more concerned that only one version of history is allowed to stand. That is censorship.
Posted on 5/31/23 at 11:43 am to crazy4lsu
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the US had expansionist ambitions before the CW
Hamilton certainly saw it this way with a powerful central government pulling the strings. Yankees were fine with it as long as they pulled the strings.
Posted on 5/31/23 at 11:44 am to crazy4lsu
What's the name of the book? I will check it out.
Posted on 5/31/23 at 11:45 am to crazy4lsu
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Preventing integration by African-Americans into the broader society was a widely supported political goal for nearly a century after the CW.
There are people (including some on this board) that lament said integration.
Posted on 5/31/23 at 11:46 am to SCLibertarian
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Do you think a society taught to hate its own culture, history and traditions is a good thing?
I think statues of Confederate generals is a poor proxy for 'culture.' And the fact that the history of Southern Unionist has been completely obliterated. Why are there Confederate monuments in places like East Tennessee, which were hotbeds of Union support? Why was that history obliterated in favor of this view that every Southerner somehow supported the Confederacy?
If 4 years in the 1860's defines your culture, it is really easy to see why it will be washed away by larger cultural movements.
Posted on 5/31/23 at 11:46 am to Tigereye78
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The Corwin Amendment and common sense disprove that accusation as the vast majority of those who fought for the CSA did not own slaves.
Of course they didn't. This is a very low bar to set, but that doesn't mean they didn't fight for the cause (continuous, free and uninhibited interference from the fed gov on slavery). As well as the succession documents clearly stating their purpose of exalting the white race
Once again was every southern soldier fighting for the stated cause no of course not just like how not every member of the German Army was fighting for the sole purpose of the Nazi cause. A great example of this is Pope Benedict XVI was a member of the Nazi Youth growing up, there was no choice
Posted on 5/31/23 at 11:47 am to Tigereye78
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What's the name of the book? I will check it out.
What? Did I reference a book?
Posted on 5/31/23 at 11:47 am to Tigereye78
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Check this put. It may help clear things up. Warning....reading comprehension skills required.
Ahahaha
Posted on 5/31/23 at 11:50 am to TrueTiger
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I'm more concerned that only one version of history is allowed to stand. That is censorship.
There was heavy censorship by Lost Cause supporters in the years after the CW, which gave a version of events that suited them. That version gets celebrated with statues, long diatribes about 'culture' and every moral equivocation you can think of. You believe that version wholeheartedly too.
Posted on 5/31/23 at 11:52 am to crazy4lsu
You can fix typos, but you can't fix stupid.
Posted on 5/31/23 at 11:54 am to crazy4lsu
Where did I limit this to Confederates? BLM protesters tore down statues of George Washington, Abraham Lincoln, Theodore Roosevelt, Ulysses S. Grant and Francis Scott Key during the 2020 riots. Eleanor Holmes Norton has introduced legislation to have every trace of Andrew Jackson removed from DC. The 1619 Project isn't some conspiracy, it's a road map to the fundamental transformation of how we view this country.
Posted on 5/31/23 at 11:54 am to crazy4lsu
Thought maybe perhaps you were being a gentleman...clearly it is not your strong suit as is the case with Yankee sympathizers.
Posted on 5/31/23 at 12:03 pm to SCLibertarian
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Where did I limit this to Confederates? BLM protesters tore down statues of George Washington, Abraham Lincoln, Theodore Roosevelt, Ulysses S. Grant and Francis Scott Key during the 2020 riots.
But the majority that were removed or torn down were Confederate memorials, or memorials which were dedicated to some colonial enterprise. Those are more an indication of the disposition of protestors than some protestors who toppled a group of statues in Golden Gate Park.
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The 1619 Project isn't some conspiracy, it's a road map to the fundamental transformation of how we view this country.
Lol. It's a piece of journalism that is going to be used as a proxy for an undercurrent of anti-Confederate and broadly anti-colonial feeling that has existed for a long time. You might personally find some meaning in a particular version of history that was taught to you, but that doesn't mean it is the definitive true version.
Posted on 5/31/23 at 12:03 pm to Tigereye78
To a certain extent, aren't we all practicioners of synergy. I'm thinking that salvation is something you probably work for and then you get some Divine Grace to help you out.
What does that have to do with my comment of Calvin and his almost maniacal de facto rule of Geneva 500 years ago?
Trying to deflect over the fact that your Confederate idols were about as pure in their intentions as their Federal ( Union) counterparts.
Like I sad, the Confederates should have fought better when they began to engage the Union in a fight and be ready to accept the consequences of a loss and what that meant. But alas, Southerners are always victims....so victimized.
What does that have to do with my comment of Calvin and his almost maniacal de facto rule of Geneva 500 years ago?
Trying to deflect over the fact that your Confederate idols were about as pure in their intentions as their Federal ( Union) counterparts.
Like I sad, the Confederates should have fought better when they began to engage the Union in a fight and be ready to accept the consequences of a loss and what that meant. But alas, Southerners are always victims....so victimized.
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Posted on 5/31/23 at 12:04 pm to Tigereye78
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Thought maybe perhaps you were being a gentleman...clearly it is not your strong suit as is the case with Yankee sympathizers.
No, I'm sent by God to combat the evil in your own heart. Predestination and such. Lol.
Posted on 5/31/23 at 12:07 pm to KiwiHead
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Like I sad, the Confederates should have fought better when they began to engage the Union in a fight and be ready to accept the consequences of a loss and what that meant. But alas, Southerners are always victims....so victimized.
The irony is that a more centralized strategy may have helped them reach their goals. The decentralized strategy they ended up using forced them to fight the wrong type of war for the wrong type of time period. Grant was an underrated genius in that he understood the nature of war was changing, and thus he adapted accordingly.
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