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re: One of the drug boats had two Trinidadians on board, here is some local details

Posted on 10/20/25 at 9:14 am to
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
296529 posts
Posted on 10/20/25 at 9:14 am to
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I believe the POTUS takes an oath to protect our country from enemies both foreign and domestic.


The supply of drugs is due to a demand from our own people. To defeat it, thats where your battle has to be.

I am amazed at how many people on this board think the drug issue is supply related. Thats simply one of the dumbest things i have ever heard.

Posted by DocYatesVA
Yukon, OK
Member since Oct 2022
289 posts
Posted on 10/20/25 at 9:23 am to
"Heavier penalties for possession and use"

But I thought all of the liberal hive mind think that there are already too many people in jails and prison? Which one do you support?

I personally think it should be a combination of both. Strict penalties with laborious prison time, as well as hitting the narcos where it hurts, in their pocketbooks. Sooner or later they will realize that losing millions of dollars worth of product is a useless pursuit and perhaps take up something else. Maybe even find legitimate work contributing something to society.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
296529 posts
Posted on 10/20/25 at 9:24 am to
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But I thought all of the liberal hive mind think that there are already too many people in jails and prison? Which one do you support?


Mass incarceration works if youre willing to deal with the social effects (single parent homes, etc.)

This post was edited on 10/20/25 at 9:25 am
Posted by DocYatesVA
Yukon, OK
Member since Oct 2022
289 posts
Posted on 10/20/25 at 9:37 am to
So which do you want? Locking up the drug addled parents? Or fining them and letting them go back to doing the same thing? You seem to have all the answers, but non of what you are proposing seems to fit a legitimate strategy. If it takes blowing up boats in international waters which are carrying drugs to get the message to the cartels that we are tired of this nonsense, I fully support it. Actually I am all for expanding it up the entire coast of Central America as well. If we are gonna call it the War on Drugs, then let there actually be some action. Anyone who has seen some of the atrocities committed by these cartels, on foreigners and their own people, would not hesitate to see them removed from the face of the earth.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
296529 posts
Posted on 10/20/25 at 9:39 am to
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So which do you want?


Freedom for people to choose to frick up their lives if they choose as long as I have the means to protect myself.

I prefer mass incarceration and always have. It seems you have the entire political spectrum fricked up.
Posted by bayoudude
Member since Dec 2007
25840 posts
Posted on 10/20/25 at 10:32 am to
Ah the elusive square grouper
Posted by DocYatesVA
Yukon, OK
Member since Oct 2022
289 posts
Posted on 10/20/25 at 1:51 pm to

"Freedom for people to choose to frick up their lives if they choose as long as I have the means to protect myself."

But that's just it, they don't just mess up their lives. They tend to mess up other more innocent lives as well, like leaving children as orphans, or driving while high and killing a family. Or better yet, hitting rock bottom and wanting society to pick them up, give them assistance, and enable them all over again to go back and do the same thing. It affects more than themselves, way more.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
62645 posts
Posted on 10/20/25 at 2:07 pm to
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I'm still pretty shocked that people are in support of blowing up ships off the coast of another continent that are zero threat to our national security interest whatsoever.


Drugs obviously do pose a threat to our national security.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
296529 posts
Posted on 10/20/25 at 4:24 pm to
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But that's just it, they don't just mess up their lives.


Make the penalty for possession strong enough to deter them. We have never done that.

Every successful anti drug campaign went after the demand, not just the supplier side.
Posted by Stonehenge
Wakulla Springs
Member since Dec 2014
2492 posts
Posted on 10/20/25 at 5:00 pm to
The lunatic is killing people just to distract from his other crimes.
Posted by antibarner
Member since Oct 2009
26086 posts
Posted on 10/20/25 at 6:13 pm to
I lost someone close to me also. He's responsible for his own actions sure. BUT.....the bastards who ship and distribute the poison have to pay a price.

As fas as I am concerned...if youre caught distributing they should shoot you in the back of the head. Sentence users to hard labor...no parole.Make the price too high. They'll stop.
This post was edited on 10/20/25 at 6:16 pm
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
296529 posts
Posted on 10/20/25 at 6:16 pm to
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BUT.....the bastards who ship and distribute the poison have to pay a price.


I have a relative lost to it. I get the anger and illegal fentanyl is extremely dangerous.

But as long as there is a multi billion dollar market there will be suppliers. Its like Isis/Talaban/whatever that keeps popping up after we kill the previous off.


I'm sympathetic to those in addiction, but they will find an alternative if Fent is no longer available. We all know that.
This post was edited on 10/20/25 at 6:17 pm
Posted by antibarner
Member since Oct 2009
26086 posts
Posted on 10/20/25 at 6:18 pm to
Kill enough of them...money is no good to the dead. Thats how you stop it. No more playing around.

Bring back chain gangs....work the shite out of the users.,....it wont be worth it any more.
This post was edited on 10/20/25 at 6:20 pm
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
296529 posts
Posted on 10/20/25 at 6:23 pm to
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Kill enough of them.


That will never end, because the trade is too lucrative and people will always take the risks if the money is there.

Americans spend 200 billion+ a year on it . The motive is there.
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