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re: Okay, we've seen 2 more states going radical on abortion laws.

Posted on 2/24/19 at 1:42 pm to
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
134141 posts
Posted on 2/24/19 at 1:42 pm to
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If you really think babies are being murdered, why are you doing nothing?


This is such a lazy gotcha trope, and quite beneath your debate skills.
Posted by NPComb
Member since Jan 2019
28496 posts
Posted on 2/24/19 at 1:46 pm to
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Babies are being murdered by the millions, and voting is all you want to do about it?


Are you advocating those on the right use violence? That’s a leftist maneuver. I believe in democracy. It sucks where we are but that’s the fault of both the voters and those elected. I’ll play the hand I’m dealt until leftist stack the deck.
Posted by texridder
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Oct 2017
14944 posts
Posted on 2/24/19 at 2:06 pm to
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Well, the left is really ignoring reality with these new laws.
You don't know what you're talking about, the same as virtually all the posters in this thread. The new York law follows Roe v Wade restrictions. The Vermont law kept the same restrictions as the prior law. The Virginia bill that was voted down would have followed Roe restrictions.

The only reason the Virginia law garnered such controversy is the comments that were made by the bill sponsor, and the comment by Northam, which was taken out of context and misreported as approving of infanticide.

Neither of those comments change what the bill itself actually said.

This post was edited on 2/24/19 at 2:09 pm
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
22253 posts
Posted on 2/25/19 at 2:33 pm to
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How do i stop abortions?


You don't stop them by making them illegal - you stop them by removing the conditions that foster women to seek them.

So better healthcare, better sex education (NOT abstinence only), better access to contraception, better support for children born into low-income families, etc.
Posted by Bulldogblitz
In my house
Member since Dec 2018
28161 posts
Posted on 2/25/19 at 2:38 pm to
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better sex education (NOT abstinence only), better access to contraception


these two arguments are always the most belittling, and it completely allows for the dodging of the real issue.
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
22253 posts
Posted on 2/25/19 at 2:40 pm to
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it completely allows for the dodging of the real issue.


No, the issue is that you guys are all about supporting a fetus, but don't give enough of a shite to care for either the mother before pregnancy or the child after.

If you'd care more about the periods pre- and post- pregnancy, rather than the period pregnancy alone, you'd do a lot more to support your stated goal of reducing the number of abortions.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 2/25/19 at 2:46 pm to
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No, the issue is that you guys are all about supporting a fetus, but don't give enough of a shite to care for either the mother before pregnancy or the child after.

Unsupportable falsehood.

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If you'd care more about the periods pre- and post- pregnancy, rather than the period pregnancy alone, you'd do a lot more to support your stated goal of reducing the number of abortions.
Strawman.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 2/25/19 at 2:48 pm to
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So better healthcare, better sex education (NOT abstinence only),
What percentage of women who seek abortions do you think met ANY of the following:

1)Surprised to learn they could get pregnant fricking
2)Didn't know about birth control
3)Didn't have access to cheap or free birth control that was well within their ability to acquire?
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
22253 posts
Posted on 2/25/19 at 3:40 pm to
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Unsupportable falsehood.


Supported by facts and demonstrated daily by the Republican Party.

Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
22253 posts
Posted on 2/25/19 at 3:41 pm to
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2)Didn't know about birth control
3)Didn't have access to cheap or free birth control that was well within their ability to acquire?


>0%, which means telling them would reduce the number of abortions.

Which, again, is what you guys claim is your ultimate goal.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 2/25/19 at 5:17 pm to
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>0%

ROFLMAO

Chickenshit
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 2/25/19 at 5:31 pm to
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You don't stop them by making them illegal - you stop them by removing the conditions that foster women to seek them.

So better healthcare, better sex education (NOT abstinence only), better access to contraception, better support for children born into low-income families, etc.


Imagine if you thought that way about gun violence. Let's remove the conditions which cause people to murder other people.
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
22253 posts
Posted on 2/25/19 at 6:36 pm to
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ShortyRob


Why don't you want to reduce the number of abortions, you monster?

Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 2/25/19 at 6:38 pm to
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Why don't you want to reduce the number of abortions, you monster?




I would like to kill the spawn of every leftist piece of human debris out there.

Take those kids bitching at Feinstein Friday. They would be better off dead, should have never been allowed to term. They will always be worthless and a drain and nuisance to normal people.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
59463 posts
Posted on 2/25/19 at 6:39 pm to
You outright lie and are usually disingenuous. It should tell you something about your positions...but clearly you lack any semblance of self awareness
Posted by Armchair_QB
Member since Aug 2013
1512 posts
Posted on 2/25/19 at 6:40 pm to
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Yes. Babies are being murdered by the millions, and you're able to muster the courage to come here to whine about it with like minds...and that's about it.


Do the world a favor and abort yourself.
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 2/25/19 at 6:42 pm to
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Let's remove the conditions which cause people to murder other people.




I know how you can cut the number of murders in half real quick dipshit.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 2/25/19 at 6:49 pm to
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Do the world a favor and abort yourself.


You must be a Christian.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 2/25/19 at 6:49 pm to
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I know how you can cut the number of murders in half real quick dipshit.



I didn't realize you hated the Second Amendment.

That actually makes sense.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 2/25/19 at 6:51 pm to
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quote:

You don't stop them by making them illegal - you stop them by removing the conditions that foster women to seek them.

So better healthcare, better sex education (NOT abstinence only), better access to contraception, better support for children born into low-income families, etc.



Imagine if you thought that way about gun violence. Let's remove the conditions which cause people to murder other people.


Ask questions if my post went over your heads.

Or just admit you hate gun rights.
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