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re: NYT smears Rand Paul, LvMI, Rockwell, Rothbard, Spooner, Block as racists.
Posted on 1/26/14 at 1:59 pm to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 1/26/14 at 1:59 pm to SlowFlowPro
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if i only choose to breed with intelligent women of all races, i'm practicing eugenics without racism
So is this thread going to become an asinine debate about eugenics or is it going to be about the glaringly obvious hit piece written by the NYT?
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Posted on 1/26/14 at 2:00 pm to joshnorris14
Unpossible. Bernard Goldberg personally heard Dan Rather call the NYT "middle of the road".
Posted on 1/26/14 at 2:16 pm to joshnorris14
It used to be that if you treated someone different because of their skin color, you were a racist. Now, if you DON'T treat people different because of the color of their skin, you're a racist.
Liberals and intellectual honesty go together like Micheal Moore and treadmills.
Liberals and intellectual honesty go together like Micheal Moore and treadmills.
Posted on 1/26/14 at 2:19 pm to joshnorris14
Just read the first paragraph of the link. 
Posted on 1/26/14 at 2:19 pm to joshnorris14
Nelson Mandela was pretty racist. :crickets: is what you hear about that.
Posted on 1/26/14 at 2:19 pm to stuntman
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It used to be that if you treated someone different because of their skin color, you were a racist. Now, if you DON'T treat people different because of the color of their skin, you're a racist.
It goes further than that. If you were against a war that had unbelievably destructive consequences (The Civil War) you're a racist even if you spend decades trying to end slavery.
Posted on 1/26/14 at 2:32 pm to TN Bhoy
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Eugenics = Racism
I agree.
I'll go one further:
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Eugenics = Abortion = Racism
Explore the Eugenics movement and Margaret Sanger and Planned Parenthood and the motivation behind abortion and then look at where so many abortion clinics are located and then look at the percentage of black pregnancies that end in abortion.
You have just indicted the entire Liberal/Progressive movement as racist. But, we already knew that.
Posted on 1/26/14 at 2:37 pm to SlowFlowPro
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if i only choose to breed with intelligent women of all races, i'm practicing eugenics without racism
A. How would you classify people as intelligent/unintelligent?
B. That would assume that intelligence is hereditary
Posted on 1/26/14 at 2:42 pm to AlaTiger
Could you guys start your own thread stating your illogical conclusions?
Posted on 1/26/14 at 2:58 pm to joshnorris14
I thought the article was pretty even-handed of Rand Paul. It clearly stated his statements about not agreeing with the unsavory things and beliefs of Rothbard, Rockwell, Block, and others.
How this could be conceived as a smear piece? It just looks at what others associated with the Libertarian movement and him have said, and it allowed Paul to dissociate from those extreme beliefs.
How this could be conceived as a smear piece? It just looks at what others associated with the Libertarian movement and him have said, and it allowed Paul to dissociate from those extreme beliefs.
Posted on 1/26/14 at 3:04 pm to TN Bhoy
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A. How would you classify people as intelligent/unintelligent?
their level of intelligence
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B. That would assume that intelligence is hereditary
there isn't a genetic link? LINK?
Posted on 1/26/14 at 3:07 pm to Ralph_Wiggum
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and it allowed Paul to dissociate from those extreme beliefs.
Says the communist.
Posted on 1/26/14 at 3:14 pm to joshnorris14
Read that yesterday and couldn't believe in this day, people could be so f'king naive.
Unfortunately they have an audience for that crap
Unfortunately they have an audience for that crap
Posted on 1/26/14 at 3:20 pm to joshnorris14
The word "racism" appears once in that article, here:
The Mises circuit is in fact full of people who celebrate the old South and confederate politics. To do so isn't necessarily racist (though let's be honest, David Duke is about as racist as they come). I know because I used to be an old South kind of libertarian, but I've never been remotely attracted to racist ideology or rhetoric.
I really don't see what a libertarian can object to in that article.
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Mr. Paul says he abhors racism, has never visited the institute and should not have to answer for the more extreme views of all of those in the libertarian orbit.
The Mises circuit is in fact full of people who celebrate the old South and confederate politics. To do so isn't necessarily racist (though let's be honest, David Duke is about as racist as they come). I know because I used to be an old South kind of libertarian, but I've never been remotely attracted to racist ideology or rhetoric.
I really don't see what a libertarian can object to in that article.
Posted on 1/26/14 at 3:23 pm to joshnorris14
To put it mildly, the title of this thread is very misleading.
Posted on 1/26/14 at 3:29 pm to Bayou Sam
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The word "racism" appears once in that article, here:
It's implicit at every turn, come on. When you randomly bring up Lysander Spooner to say he condemned the Civil War as an act of blatant militarism it's solely for the purpose of painting a racist picture.
Posted on 1/26/14 at 3:36 pm to joshnorris14
Look, I won't say you're lying or being deliberately misleading. I think you're seeing what you want to see. Here's what the article actually says about Lysander Spooner:
So the article introduces Spooner by describing him accurately as an abolitionist who opposed the war against the South as unjust. What are you complaining about again?
quote:
tucked into Mr. Paul’s lengthy monologue — its 76,000 words would fill a 300-page manuscript — was another narrative, told in a sprinkling of obscure references. He cited . . . the theories of Lysander Spooner, a Massachusetts abolitionist who turned against the North in the Civil War, which he deplored as unjust aggression against the Confederacy
So the article introduces Spooner by describing him accurately as an abolitionist who opposed the war against the South as unjust. What are you complaining about again?
Posted on 1/26/14 at 3:55 pm to Bayou Sam
I tend to agree. I was expecting much worse. The problem with the Pauls isn't libertarianism it's the Libertarian party which for decades has been a basket case of a party with all kinds of whack jobs associated with it...and I've coted for their candidate on occasion.
And the Paul's cant seem to help having some dumbass in their circle that is/was an overt racist....Rands:
I'm voting for the guy, but let's be honest, the Pauls and the Libertarian Party and the movement to a degree have some house cleaning to do.
And the Paul's cant seem to help having some dumbass in their circle that is/was an overt racist....Rands:
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He skipped an address by his father, former Representative Ron Paul, as well as closing remarks by his own former Senate aide, an ex-radio host who had once celebrated Abraham Lincoln’s assassination and extolled white pride.
I'm voting for the guy, but let's be honest, the Pauls and the Libertarian Party and the movement to a degree have some house cleaning to do.
This post was edited on 1/26/14 at 3:56 pm
Posted on 1/26/14 at 4:04 pm to joshnorris14
The New York Times appreciates the free publicity and additional readers you've provided them.
Posted on 1/26/14 at 4:13 pm to joshnorris14
What else would you expect from the democratic propaganda arm?
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