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NY Times vindicates Trump Medical Pricing transparency policy
Posted on 8/25/21 at 9:30 pm
Posted on 8/25/21 at 9:30 pm
Trump's Medical Pricing Transparency Policies Vindicated in Stunning New York Times Report
LINK - red state
LINK - red state
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When The New York Times decided to take a deep dive into just what compliance with the policy was revealing, they discovered there may be good reason for medical power brokers to keep their pricing systems hidden from the public eye.
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As an example, NYT went on to list the comparative costs of a standard colonoscopy at the Mississippi Medical Center: $1463 with a Cigna plan, $2144 with Aetna, and a stunning $782 with no insurance at all.
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NYT also found that there were several bad actors still holding out on fulfilling their legal responsibility for transparency. These “bad actors” are among the most profitable medical facilities in the nation.
Posted on 8/25/21 at 9:34 pm to Kjnstkmn
Health insurance is a fricking joke in this country
Posted on 8/25/21 at 9:34 pm to Kjnstkmn
Funny how the NYT does actual reporting after the election is stolen and nothing can be done about it.
Posted on 8/25/21 at 9:35 pm to Stastny
Actually The NY Times praising a Trump policy is a big fricking surprise
Posted on 8/25/21 at 9:35 pm to Kjnstkmn
But Oklahog said its okay for employers to take large sums of money from their employees for not being vaccinated. Because you know, vaccinations will save them long term Healthcare costs.
Yet here we are ... a colonoscopy with no insurance is cheaper than with insurance. So obviously the hospitals, insurance companiea and pharma are corrupt. Oh well, no more mean tweets from that crazy orange guy.
Yet here we are ... a colonoscopy with no insurance is cheaper than with insurance. So obviously the hospitals, insurance companiea and pharma are corrupt. Oh well, no more mean tweets from that crazy orange guy.
Posted on 8/25/21 at 9:35 pm to Kjnstkmn
As someone who always pays cash for medical services, this Trump legislation was a great first step.
Posted on 8/25/21 at 9:38 pm to Kjnstkmn
Thank God For James O’Keefe suing these crooks and WINNING! He gets to depose them now after the court sided with him not to dismiss his claim. This might be what we need to start having these left wing media entities to start reporting the truth and not just left wing propaganda.
Posted on 8/25/21 at 9:38 pm to Kjnstkmn
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Actually The NY Times praising a Trump policy is a big fricking surprise
they don't need money from my click. Did they do it without mentioning trump?
Posted on 8/25/21 at 9:40 pm to Kjnstkmn
Big Pharma is more than making up for right now.
Posted on 8/25/21 at 9:45 pm to Kjnstkmn
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As an example, NYT went on to list the comparative costs of a standard colonoscopy at the Mississippi Medical Center: $1463 with a Cigna plan, $2144 with Aetna, and a stunning $782 with no insurance at all.
The first two are not like the other. The Cigna and Aetna prices are what they will charge on the EOB. They will receive about half of that with the majority coming from the insurance company themselves depending on plan specifics
The $782 is a cash payment upfront. All of it will come from the patient. No hospital is allowing a non-emergent procedure on patient without insurance unless it is pre-paid
Posted on 8/25/21 at 9:48 pm to Kjnstkmn
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NY Times vindicates Trump Medical Pricing transparency policy
Limbaugh used to call this a "random act of journalism".
RIP Rush We could use your input now.
Posted on 8/25/21 at 9:51 pm to the_watcher
Yes they mention the negotiated prices with the insurance companies. Bottom line is charging varying prices for the same service is frickery and thievery. Why do you think the premiums are so high.
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It shows hospitals are charging patients wildly different amounts for the same basic services: procedures as simple as an X-ray or a pregnancy test. And it provides numerous examples of major health insurers — some of the world’s largest companies, with billions in annual profits — negotiating surprisingly unfavorable rates for their customers. In many cases, insured patients are getting prices that are higher than they would if they pretended to have no coverage at all.
Posted on 8/25/21 at 9:52 pm to CMBears1259
Imagine walking into Walmart and have prices like the medical world. You go to check out and the guy in front of you is paying $10 for a 2 liter, but when you check out it’s only $2. It’s okay though cause the bank is only going to send $3 for the guy charged $10 so it’s not a big deal wink wink.
Posted on 8/25/21 at 9:55 pm to LSUwag
But they sit on or ignore news that doesn't fit their agenda or narrative, and outright distort the truth and boldly lie.
This is just them trying to make up ground and restore what crumbs of credibility they are clinging to.
This is just them trying to make up ground and restore what crumbs of credibility they are clinging to.
This post was edited on 8/25/21 at 9:58 pm
Posted on 8/25/21 at 10:05 pm to Kjnstkmn
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and a stunning $782 with no insurance at all.
The NYT is once again misleading the simpleminded. This facility is eating the cost of colonoscopies for the uninsured and poor. And passing the cost to everyone else. The end game here is the the socialist NYT can say “we need Democrats universal healthcare to replace free market health insurance “.
And you dumb asses fall for it every time.
Posted on 8/25/21 at 10:19 pm to Kjnstkmn
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Yes they mention the negotiated prices with the insurance companies. Bottom line is charging varying prices for the same service is frickery and thievery
It’s necessary given each insurance company will be reimbursing a different amount for the same service
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Why do you think the premiums are so high.
Because both you and I are subsidizing Medicaid patients, self-pay patients, and all the people that use emergency rooms as their own primary care doctor.
Posted on 8/25/21 at 10:44 pm to the_watcher
That’s socialist equity bs. The service costs the same to provide - staff costs, electricity and related overhead etc… is the same regardless of who the patient is and what insurance they have. The insurance contracts should not be considered when setting price. If you have better insurance your co-pay will be less. Shouldn’t affect the original cost of the same service in a fair system. They are cooking the books to maximize profits.
If they want to subsidize the uninsured then a transparent cross the board percentage surcharge should be used like LA did with the Citizen state property insurance if last resort. Not by hiding the pricing structure from the customers.
If they want to subsidize the uninsured then a transparent cross the board percentage surcharge should be used like LA did with the Citizen state property insurance if last resort. Not by hiding the pricing structure from the customers.
Posted on 8/25/21 at 11:05 pm to jrodLSUke
What's dumb is the fact that people defend the insurance companies like they're not worth billions of dollars. Like health insurance dollars only go to the hospitals/doctors. "For profit" is the name of the game. And, the lawyers love it too!
Posted on 8/25/21 at 11:15 pm to LSUwag
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Funny how the NYT does actual reporting after the election is stolen and nothing can be done about it.
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