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Posted by yatesdog38
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Posted on 6/5/19 at 12:40 pm to
Water is not wet. The surface of another object is wet because the amount of liquid (from water) exceeds the absorption rate of the object.
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Posted by RCDfan1950
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Posted on 6/5/19 at 12:42 pm to
Good work, as usual, TP; pushing the envelope.

Belief in God ("God" - for lack of a better descriptor and with all the cultural/historical 'baggage' therein, of an 'Entity' which is essentially incomprehensible - at some point becomes a validation of the Gospel of God's (supposed) Only Begotten Son. Jesus being the original Mold/Prototype for the Human manifestation of a particular and unique level of consciousness. An evolved level wherein we reach a 'crossroad' of sorts; where we stand before a 'buffet' of human possibility, but all of those possible choices being based on Thomas Sowell's "First Premise" Theory, that all beliefs and actions spring from a First Premise.

And the Crossroads First Premise, is indeed that elucidated and witnessed by the Son's Testimony. Such being the Idea that God did indeed 'break Itself into 'pieces', destined to become 'Children'...and It did so for the Divine Purpose/Intent toward greater/more Love. Indeed, such an act (the 'breakup' via the Big Bang) is essentially sewing the seed of imperfection, relative dis-unity, competition for survival and prosperity, and in general, "wailing and gnashing of teeth". But those who do experience the power of the "First Premise" of Love...know in their Soul and Perceptive Essence, the power therein. And all things, choices and Realities spring from this eternal and ever-changing (at this level) fount of Love.

Indeed, this Knowledge will be the "Second Coming", and for the Chose who have evolved, labored and grown to Spiritual fruition, it is their time to be 'changed'...and what the peripheral scenarios will be re alien life form interaction, wars/Armageddon/etc., AI/Virtual Reality or a blind advance to a/the Singularity...such matters not to the Chosen.

This coming 'change'/transformation will be formidable, for those who will experience it, and remain (relatively) Human. But just like 'death' (transformation back into the Unlimited Essence/God), it is inevitable. And glorious to them that do become accustomed aforehand, to said transformation. In plain speak...warrior up and be ready for a big alteration of one's consciousness.

I experienced it way back; and both the Light and the Dark inspired me to get in the hand of Jesus, for cya. I'm not surprise that those 'grey aliens' respect that Name/Feeling. All will, even the Dark respects the Light...though they may not chose to worship/bow to It.

Love to the Brethren, and Brethren to be in due time.
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Posted on 6/5/19 at 1:21 pm to
Man, my dad (RIP 2006) would be so into this stuff. He was a conservation christian that was obsessed with UFOs and Aliens. I wish I could talk to him about all this. He would be so excited.
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Posted on 6/5/19 at 1:53 pm to
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Was it Q who said that more UFO information would be more widely released to lessen the impact of the drama about to play out with the Dumbacrats? That it was high level dims doing those releases?



Well there's this:

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DeLonge executive produced the History Channel’s new show Unidentified: Inside America’s U.F.O. Investigation, which airs Fridays at 10 p.m. He appears in the show with former military and government officials such as Elizondo, Lt. Graves as well as John Podesta, President Clinton’s former Chief of Staff. In this interview, DeLonge also discusses new music by Angels and Airwaves and the state of Blink-182, and why he hopes to return to his former band someday.
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Posted on 6/5/19 at 2:06 pm to
Has anyone watched Delonge, Elizondo's history channel show first episode "Unidentified?" it's going to be very interesting if this show keeps going as deep as this first episode.
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Posted by musick
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Posted on 6/5/19 at 2:21 pm to
This is not your normal UFO/Aliens show.

This is headed by Elizondo, the former US DOD, Pentagon, UFO Program, and was Executive produced by Tom Delonge.

The first episode interviews legit former pilots.

This follows the leaked 2017 NYT article about the UFO program, which they also just published another one

2017 Article outlining the DOD's Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program

Article from last week talking about Navy pilots discussing definite UFO activity

Good Morning America segment on the show, and UFOs

Here is the first episode.
Posted by RCDfan1950
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Posted on 6/5/19 at 2:36 pm to
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Man, my dad (RIP 2006) would be so into this stuff. He was a conservation christian that was obsessed with UFOs and Aliens. I wish I could talk to him about all this. He would be so excited.


I suspect that you and your dad are just hitting stride, M. Pick a dream...that will be your future. Just have to labor toward it. Gaining power, via the acquisition of Knowledge/Truth...is the fruit of that labor.

Limitation of something, increases it's value. Think about that. We're getting there. God speed to your and you dad.

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Posted on 6/5/19 at 2:53 pm to
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Unlock

Not “figure out” or solve

Unlock

That implies a known barrier...


This is the only thing i remember from the inaugeration
Posted by ThinePreparedAni
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Posted on 6/5/19 at 2:54 pm to
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I wish I could talk to him about all this


If you believe the themes we post here, you are/will get to do this from a different plain of existence

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He would be so excited.


For all we know he played a role in pushing this forward
He, like many others, are likely rejoicing from beyond the veil

Stay optimistic / reverent
Extraordinary times ahead. We get to experience it in the flesh


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Posted by musick
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Posted on 6/5/19 at 3:02 pm to
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If you believe the themes we post here, you are/will get to do this from a different plain of existence


I see my dad in my Dreams almost weekly to this day.

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For all we know he played a role in pushing this forward He, like many others, are likely rejoicing from beyond the veil Stay optimistic / reverent Extraordinary times ahead. We get to experience it in the flesh


One of the best moments I've had in my life was back in 2001 putting on the Tool album Lateralus, my mom had left town, and my dad and I put on candles, turned off the lights off, and mediated (jammed out with eyes closed) together to that album, which it's main message is we are eternal beings having a human experience. It still remains an all time greatest moment of my life and still resonates with me to this day.

I posted some of this stuff on facebook just now, and my uncle said my dad is likely piloting some of these UFOs in jest.
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Posted by ThinePreparedAni
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Posted on 6/8/19 at 1:13 pm to
Fox News interview transcript:

https://www.ufojoe.net/?p=910

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Transcript – Mellon: Eight Members Of Congress Can Gain Access To The Most Sacred And Tightly Held Special Access Programs (Crashed UFOs And Bodies?)

5 JUN , 2019


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Transcript – June 5th, 2019 – Interview with Christopher Mellon of “To The Stars Academy of Arts and Science” on “The Fox News Breakdown.”

Harris Faulkner Narration: The Truth? Is out there…

(The X-Files theme music plays)

We just don’t know what it is, yet.

But I’m not talking about something out of a TV show. Or a movie.

(Close Encounters of the Third Kind music plays)

We’re talking about real, close encounters with flying objects, definitely not identified.



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Christopher Mellon: There’s no evidence…there’s no clue as to what it…how these things propel themselves. How do they remain aloft? And what is their form of propulsion? So they descend from above 80,000 feet, from the maximum radar detection range of the, in this case, the Princeton Aegis destroyer or cruiser. And they have a low radar cross section so they probably were much higher before they were detected.


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Christopher Mellon: The acceleration forces that have been calculated…we know from the radar data how far that vehicle travelled and what time period. And strangely, bizarrely, it went from the point of which it was engaged by these F-18s, low over the water, where there was a disturbance in the water – as though there was something there and it was hovering over it – it started moving around erratically. And it spiraled up, behind the F-18, then shot away like a bullet, traveling fifty miles in a couple of seconds. And then it hovered – came to a complete, full stop – at what they call the cap point. The rendezvous point that the F-18s were using for their military exercise.


My speculation (along with the material TTSA has put out):

This is not just a nuts/bolts phenomenon (see below)
The speculation is that whatever was piloting the tic tac read the pilots / crews minds (not magic, advanced manipulation of non local consciousness...)

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Christopher Mellon: Well, it’s not just those vehicles. So, what Lt. Graves and his comrade. Lt. Accoin, who were deployed on the East Coast with an F-18 squadron. Some of the vehicles they’ve seen and described, in the New York Times article, are spherical. They’re perhaps six to ten feet across. And they’re transparent, like a soap bubble with a black cube inside. And the edges of the cube are touching the interior of the bubble. Now…


We have discussed the black cube symbolism in other threads...
Will add esoteric info below this post

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These things…one final point that you might find of interest..these things are sometimes seen flying in formation.

Harris Faulkner: Like birds or like our own fighter planes?

Christopher Mellon: Yeah, like, you know, a v-shaped formation.


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Harris Faulkner: Could we have this at Area 51 and we don’t even know it?

Christopher Mellon: Uhh…



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Harris Faulkner Narration: Now to Christopher Mellon, Area 51 isn’t just something in a movie. He’s been there. And it was part of his job as Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense for Intelligence, to know what happens there. The secrets kept there.

Christopher Mellon: We’re developing the next generation of weapons technology in some of these remote, desert facilities that…White Sands and other locations. I think, most of what goes on there, if not all of it – probably all of it – are things the American people would be proud of and support. And if we could share that information with them without it also getting to the Russians and Chinese, we would.

Harris Faulkner: But everyone wants to know if there’s aliens like in Independence Day? Are there aliens floating in a tank?

Christopher Mellon: Right. You know, that’s a great…what I will tell you about that is that…and I don’t think I wanna go beyond this. There are eight individuals in Congress…

Harris Faulkner: I’m not trying to get you in trouble but I wanna know. (Laughs)

Christopher Mellon: I understand. And, you know, there are certain…I’ll be as forthcoming as I can. Transparent as I can. What I will say on that particular topic is that there are eight individuals in Congress, stipulated by law: Section 119 of Title 10, specifically, who can ask that question and get…and deserve and are entitled to a straight answer from the Department of Defense.

Harris Faulkner: Really?

Christopher Mellon: I used to help prepare the briefing book that went to these eight members. So by law, even the most sacred and tightly held special access programs, are required by law to be shared with these eight members. Now they don’t have to take the briefings, and they often don’t, because they’re doing other things. And they’re very busy and it’s rather technical and it doesn’t necessarily advance their careers. But that information is available to them. And they are entitled to ask and get a straight answer.

Harris Faulkner: So I don’t have to be president to know this stuff? All I have to do is be one of these eight members of Congress?
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Posted by ThinePreparedAni
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Posted on 6/8/19 at 1:16 pm to
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black cube


Sorry as this has other indirect info (I will edit out later although some may find it interesting)

Saturn

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Although the novel and film were developed simultaneously, the novel follows early drafts of the film, from which the final version of the film deviated.[7] These changes were often for practical reasons relating to what could be filmed economically, and a few were due to differences of opinion between Kubrick and Clarke. The most notable differences are a change in the destination planet from Saturn to Jupiter, and the nature of the sequence of events leading to Hal's demise. Stylistic differences may be more important than content differences. Of lesser importance are the appearance of the monolith, the age of Hal, and the novel giving names to various spacecraft, prehistoric apes, and Hal's inventor.


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A mission, Discovery One, is dispatched to Saturn. En route, Dr. David Bowman and Dr. Frank Poole are the only conscious humans aboard; their three colleagues are in suspended animation, to be awakened near Saturn. The HAL 9000, an artificially intelligent computer, addressed as "Hal", maintains the ship. While Poole is receiving a birthday message from his family on Earth, Hal tells Bowman that the AE-35 communication unit of the ship is going to malfunction.


Esoteric improtance of Saturn

Fringe warning:

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Saturn Worship
You might not know it, but the entire world has been worshiping Saturn for thousands of years. The cult has never stopped and its rites are still present to this day. Saturn, dubbed the “Lord of the Rings”, is the reason why we exchange rings at weddings or put halos on the heads of godly people. This article exposes the attributes of the god Saturn and the perpetuation of his cult through in pop culture.


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The cult has been perpetuated through numerous gods during Antiquity:

“Chronos, or Saturn, Dionysos, Hyperion, Atlas, Hercules, were all connected with ‘a great Saturnian continent;’ they were kings that ruled over countries on the western shores of the Mediterranean, Africa and Spain. ”
Baldwin, Prehistoric Nations

In Egyptian mythology Isis is considered Saturn’s eldest daughter:

“I am Isis, Queen of this country. I was instructed by Mercury. No one can destroy the laws which I have established. I am the eldest daughter of Saturn, most ancient of the Gods”


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SATURN IN SEMITIC CIVILIZATIONS
Semitic civilizations referred to the god Saturn as “El”. The supreme deity was represented by a black cube. We can find instances of the cube across the world.




Santa Anna



Manhattan



Hamberg



Mecca...

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SATURN AND SATAN
Saturn has also been associated with Satan and this, for numerous reasons. First, many authors argue that the word Satan is derived from the word Saturn. Second, Saturn is associated with the color black as well as Satan.

Third, Ancients considered Saturn to be the farthest planet from the sun , the latter being associated with the principle of Good. (Note that Pluto never was considered a planet). Saturn is consequently the celestial body that is the less exposed to the sun’s divine light and thus associated with the coldness of the principle of Evil.

Finally, the “great god Pan”, the horned deity, represented Saturn in ancient paganism. This half-man half-goat creature is considered the ancestor of our modern depictions of Satan.


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Despite acknowledging its association with Evil, secret societies find the veneration of Saturn necessary to obtain illumination. It is the necessary counterpart of the principle of Good. Masonic authors clearly associate Saturn with Satan:

“Saturn is the opposite to Jupiter; his symbol is the cross above the sign of Luna ( ). He is the Satan, the Tempter, or rather the Tester. His function is to chastise and tame the unruly passions in the primitive man.”
-J.S. Ward, Freemasonry and the Ancient Gods

Probably the most extreme example of a secret society worshiping Saturn’s Evil principle is the “Fraternitas Saturni”. This occult organization is based in Germany and openly embodies the hidden side of Saturn worship.

“The Fraternitas Saturni (FS), the Brotherhood of Saturn, has become known to English readers through fragmentary descriptions which emphasize the sensational, sex-magical aspects of this lodge’s work or else its darker, more Satanic, side.This is understandable in light of the fact that the FS is (or was) the most unabashedly Luciferian organization in the modern Western occult revival, and its practice of sexual occultism perhaps the most elaborately detailed of any such lodge. The FS represents a unique blend of astrological cosmology, neo-Gnostic daemonology, sexual occultism, and Freemasonic organizational principles. This grand synthesis was originally the vision of one man, the long-time Grand Master of the FS, Gregor A. Gregorius.”

-Stephen E. Flowers, Fire & Ice: The History, Structure, and Rituals of Germany’s Most Influential Modern Magical Order: The Brotherhood of Saturn


Indulge me...



Maintaining pure bloodlines through incest
Sexual occultism
Serpents/dragon
Witches/ sex magik/sacrifices
Mind control zombies
Ruling the world
Dismissing, not believing a tale they were told all their lives about evil (winter is coming...)






Kubrick may have felt it would have been a little too on the nose to travel to Satan


Saturn is later reverenced in what can be thought of as a companion film to 2001, Interstellar...









Guiding monkeys/man to a brave new world via ideological subversion /fundamental change (with emphasis on Saturn)...





The server on Silicon Valley is named Anton (by Guilfoye who is a Satanist on the show...)





Fire. Skull and Bones...




round and round
in rings???
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Posted by ThinePreparedAni
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Posted on 6/12/19 at 1:31 pm to
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Glowing Auras and ‘Black Money’: The Pentagon’s Mysterious U.F.O. Program


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By HELENE COOPER, RALPH BLUMENTHAL and LESLIE KEAN
DECEMBER 16, 2017



https://www.huffpost.com/entry/inside-knowledge-about-unidentified-aerial-phenomena_b_59dc1230e4b0b48cd8e0a5c7

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Leslie Kean
Contributor
Investigative Journalist and Author

Inside Knowledge About Unidentified Aerial Phenomena Could Lead To World-Changing Technology

10/10/2017 09:05 am ET Updated Oct 19, 2017


Note that this article preceded the article in the OP
She speculates more in this article. Lets take a look...


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Something extraordinary is about to be revealed. Former high-level officials and scientists with deep black experience who have always remained in the shadows are now stepping into the light. These insiders have long-standing connections to government agencies which may have programs investigating unidentified aerial phenomena (UAP). They intend to move into the private sector and to make all declassified information, and any future knowledge, available for all to see.


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It all started with award-winning platinum recording artist and producer Tom DeLonge, whose bands Blink182 and Angels & Airwaves sold over 25 million records in the 1990s. Tom spent many years studying UFOs, and essentially left his previous lucrative career to devote himself to this pursuit, using his own personal income and resources to set up an entertainment company called To The Stars (TTS). It had the goal of disseminating information about UFOs, consciousness, the paranormal and other unexplained mysteries through artistic pursuits such as fiction and non-fiction books, feature films, and television productions.


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Tom’s plans for TTS were delayed at this point, but he persevered. Subsequent delays have been out of his control, but everyone involved agrees with the necessity for a gradual release of information. “I think they really do want us to know. I really do think they do. I do, at this point, feel like it’s going to be a tough thing to swallow for people and I think there are elements about it that people are not ready for,” Delonge told George Knapp, the chief investigative reporter for KLAS TV in Las Vegas and weekend host of Coast to Coast AM.


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According to a TTS /AAS statement, it’s team members who have been “operating under the shadows of top-secrecy for decades” believe that “there is sufficient credible evidence of UAP that proves exotic technologies exist that could revolutionize the human experience.” The Science division will conduct the research, which will also include consciousness, engineering space-time, brain-computer interface, genomics, and creating a database of supranormal experiences. Aerospace will apply the science to create “next-generation energy and propulsion concepts for transportation and spaceflight that could forever change movement across land, water, air”, and Entertainment will offer “informative storytelling that provides insight into the journey and provokes curiosity in the profound yet unresolved mysteries of the world.”


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Following the meeting, I spoke to Stephen Justice (Aerospace Division Director), who recently retired as a Program Director for Advanced Systems at Lockheed Martin after a thirty-one year career in the Skunk Works. “How dare we think that the physics we have today is all that there is,” he said, referencing this as an important message he learned from his father. “Let’s pick at those boundaries and figure out what we don’t know. Let’s remove the artificial constraints, the assumptions we’ve applied to things, and look for opportunity.” The opportunity here, as he sees it, is to “stand in the future and look back.”




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For example, one objective is to harvest the technology to build a vehicle that will allow for almost instantaneous travel through land, air, oceans and space, by engineering the fabric of space-time. Such a vehicle could also float, like something from science fiction. Steve says we have had glimpses of the science that could make this possible. It is not outside the realm of possibiity, if the necessary resources are in place.


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Everyone I spoke to has some kind of unique relationship to or profound interest in “the Phenomenon” (UAP), and their own sense of a path forward. Jim Semivan joined the CIA in 1983 and retired after twenty-five-years. “I have come to realize that the Phenomenon is curiously multifaceted, exasperatingly complex and appears to exist both in our consensus reality and in another unknown space,” he wrote in an email to me after we met. “Perhaps, if we are very lucky, someday we may understand its ultimate purpose.”
Posted by RCDfan1950
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Posted on 6/12/19 at 2:48 pm to
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“Perhaps, if we are very lucky, someday we may understand its ultimate purpose.”


Well, I think the "purpose" is pretty obvious, to them that "have eyes that see".

IMHO, there is Love (I.e., Unity, and a/the progression of Feeling associated therein)...and there is the Opposite (feeling) which focuses in and values the Perceptive Entity/Individual over and above that of Total Unity, which is God.

Any Perceptive Entity, in any realm, form or even abstract manifestation (ethereal/spiritual/etc.) will either CHOOSE and manifest as an Entity which is loving toward it's counterparts...or self worshiping, and ambivalent (or worse) toward such.

The manifestation of chosen Love in an Entity (outside of the gut vibe) is first off an APPRECIATION for one's perceived Counterparty, regardless of that particular Entities' relative degree of intellect, power or even it's (current) choice to embrace Love as a "First Premise" of Creation/Life. Many life forms, and people - "being sewn in corruption" (Big Bang/Darwinian Evolution/Self-survival instinct), have not reached a point wherein they may make an educated choice re Love; so in effect, they are like a White Shark that consumes your child...no foul. But one can not embrace something that ones does not see current or a potential for Beauty/Love in. If that 'White Shark' is on the same path as we all are (assumption...stretch ) then we know not what it's future choice will be, re Love or Self. Wisdom..."he that seeks to save his self shall lose".

Once we are able to appreciate and entity, then we are RESPECT it. And once we respect something, we will desire and must SERVE said relationship. Why would we not; it feels a lot better than the default adversarial feeling.

I don't think those who know and embrace Love can be touched by Evil; though we can and will be tested for our own profit. And especially if one's choice (intent/will) is then buttressed by the choice to take the volition equation out of one's own (limited/flawed) ability, and put such in the hand of Jesus Christ. I think such a Choice (Jesus/His Gospel/Truth) is essentially giving permission to the Higher Powers of Good, to take over in particular instances wherein a takeover - minus permission and a total commitment to Love - would be an abomination/impossibility for any Higher Power outside of said permission.

"O death, where is thy sting".

You are a blessed person, TP; I think many will experience the 'transformation' "in the flesh". Though I don't think I'll be in that group, this run. So, I assume that you and hopefully my beautiful great granddaughter will set the table for the 'reunion'. Can't wait!

Abstract mud on the wall.
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compelling video... LINK
Posted by Possumslayer
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Wow!
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Tucker has segments I believe almost nightly

LINK

I just wish aliens would give us the cure for cancer, colds, allergies, and sinus infections.
Posted by Possumslayer
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Posted on 6/13/19 at 6:13 am to
Or at least the power to make other people shite their pants telepathically.
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Posted by ThinePreparedAni
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Posted on 6/18/19 at 9:52 pm to
Looks like we are bridging into the paranormal...

https://silvarecord.com/2019/06/15/ufo-shooting-down-helicopter-will-be-featured-on-unidentified-says-delonge/

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UFO Shooting Down Helicopter Will Be Featured on Unidentified Says Delonge JUNE 15, 2019




Folks are speculating that it relates to below:

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/1567428/Aliens-caused-Sicily-fires-say-officials.html

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Aliens caused Sicily fires, say officials By Nick Pisa in Rome 5:36PM BST 26 Oct 2007


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Aliens were responsible for a series of unexplained fires in fridges, TV’s and mobile phones in an Italian village, according to an Italian government report. Canneto di Caronia, in northern Sicily, drew attention three years ago after residents reported everyday household objects bursting into flames. TV news footage at the time showed electrical appliances as well as cookers, a pile of wedding presents and furniture smouldering.


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Locals were quick to blame supernatural forces and at the time the Vatican’s chief exorcist Father Gabriele Amorth backed up their fears and said: "I’ve seen things like this before. Demons occupy a house and appear in electrical goods. Let’s not forget that Satan and his followers have immense powers."

Now in an interim leaked report published by several Italian newspapers it has emerged that the Civil Protection Department has concluded the most likely cause was "aliens".

The report was ordered by the Italian government and brought together dozens of experts including a NASA scientist. Their two year investigation has cost an estimated £1 million. According to the report the fires were "caused by a high power electro magnetic emissions which were not man made and reached a power of between 12 and 15 gigawatts."


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We are not saying that little green men from Mars started the fires but that unnatural forces capable of creating a large amount of electromagnetic energy were responsible. "This is just one possibility we are also looking at another one which involves the testing of top secret weapons by an unknown power which are also capable of producing an enormous amount of energy."


https://www.openminds.tv/mysterious-fires-officials-blamed-ufos-aliens-return-sicily/30707

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Mysterious fires officials blamed on UFOs and aliens return to Sicily Posted by: Alejandro Rojas October 23, 2014 11 Commen


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Last year Discovery TV posted a vignette on the fires for their TV show The Unexplained Files. In it, they interview Antonio Spinnato, a local who suspects UFO sightings in the area are related to the phenomena. He says he caught UFOs on film following military helicopters. He also says one night he and some friends were attacked by the UFOs. He explained, “We saw strange lights going up towards the sky in a really bizarre way.” He says he then felt a burning sensation and the next day he had burns on his arm and forehead that he says looked as if he had been zapped by a laser. His friends also had burn marks.


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For more insight into the Canneto di Caronia fires, I contacted Italian UFO researcher Paola Harris. I have seen her discuss the incident in lectures and she was able to share additional information. Harris says that when the events started she spoke with a man in the Italian Navy who worked in intelligence in Rome at the Italian Navy Academy. Harris says, “He told me spheres of light were coming out of the water and it was pretty terrifying, that I should not involve myself.” According to Harris, houses were self combusting, cell phones would auto recharge, electrical appliances were malfunctioning, even after the power was turned off. People were moved out of the town and cameras were placed everywhere. She says no one was hurt, but people were witnessing balls of light in broad daylight. They began to believe there was an underwater UFO base off of the coast.


These things appear to be correlated with massive magnetic anomalies

Again, I think these things reside in our realm underground/underwater...

https://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread415239/pg1

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UFOs and the Mystery of Canneto di Caronia


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