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re: Nikki Haley’s top fundraiser is now supporting Trump.

Posted on 3/29/24 at 1:54 pm to
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260056 posts
Posted on 3/29/24 at 1:54 pm to
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My argument is that Trump did the same thing.


Except he paid workers not to work, which is anti American as frick.

Government paid businesses to shut down, workers not to work. Its what broke the system.
Posted by RollTide71
Member since Dec 2023
1764 posts
Posted on 3/29/24 at 2:07 pm to
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Except he paid workers not to work, which is anti American as frick. Government paid businesses to shut down, workers not to work. It's what broke the system.
Trump did not force businesses to close. He didn't. Democrats in blue states did.

Can you point me to posts you made in 2020 where you made the claims you're making now?

Desantis lost. Time to get over it.
Posted by TenWheelsForJesus
Member since Jan 2018
6471 posts
Posted on 3/29/24 at 2:09 pm to
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Are yall MAGA folk going to use this as proof that Trump is a swampy RINO like you did for Desantis? Or is this differen(T)?


To support your argument that Trump can't win, you people frequently claimed that Trump supporters "didn't know the difference between a primary and general."

If you apply your own logic to this scenario, you will have your answer.
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
17846 posts
Posted on 3/29/24 at 2:54 pm to
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If one is going to error, most of the time we want to error on the safe side.

My argument is that Trump did the same thing. His field of expertise is not medicine and listened to fauci and others. I know now that fauci is a full of dung leprechaun, but at the time I did not.

There was nothing safe about acquiescing and letting liberals take control of the whole show. I'll take a virus with a legit 1% mortality rate over giving Leftists the opportunity to burn down the country.

I don't think Trump took the safe way out. He took what he perceived to be the easy way out. He never had qualms about big government/big spending, so what's the big whoop about spending trillions needlessly on a virus that was ridiculously over-hyped for political effect? He just didn't want to be drug through the mud mere months before the election.

By the way, you didn't need to be a virologist or an MD to know (in near real time) that Covid was not the virus it was marketed to be.
Posted by Warboo
Enterprise Alabama
Member since Sep 2018
2193 posts
Posted on 3/29/24 at 2:59 pm to
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There was nothing safe about acquiescing and letting liberals take control of the whole show. I'll take a virus with a legit 1% mortality rate over giving Leftists the opportunity to burn down the country.

I don't think Trump took the safe way out. He took what he perceived to be the easy way out. He never had qualms about big government/big spending, so what's the big whoop about spending trillions needlessly on a virus that was ridiculously over-hyped for political effect? He just didn't want to be drug through the mud mere months before the election.

By the way, you didn't need to be a virologist or an MD to know (in near real time) that Covid was not the virus it was marketed to be.




No one knew the bold text when covid first happened. I agree that Trump did not do a good job handling the pandemic especially when looking hind sight. Hind sight is always 20/20 though. No matter what Trump did the media/left was going to try their best to drag him through the mud and bury him with it.
Posted by RollTide71
Member since Dec 2023
1764 posts
Posted on 3/29/24 at 3:05 pm to
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By the way, you didn't need to be a virologist or an MD to know (in near real time) that Covid was not the virus it was marketed to be.
Especially not sitting in your recliner looking back at 2020 and judging the actions of others at the time. My question for you is, at the time did YOU follow the advice of the so-called experts? I did. IF you did, how can you then fault someone else for doing the same.
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
17846 posts
Posted on 3/29/24 at 3:06 pm to
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No one knew the bold text when covid first happened.

First, the 1% isn't Covid and we knew it wasn't 1% pretty quickly. Why do you think the CDC made up all the science and started generating fake data? They wouldn't have had to do that if it wasn't understood that Covid, in and of itself, was not going to spark the fear they were looking for.

It's not like it was a new playbook, right? How many times has the Left/establishment tried to sell the country on existential threats and threats to our democracy - all cured by making them rich and poweful? Covid should have been received, even at the very beginning, with a shite ton of well-deserved skepticism.

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I agree that Trump did not do a good job handling the pandemic especially when looking hind sight. Hind sight is always 20/20 though

But that's my point - it's not hindsight.

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No matter what Trump did the media/left was going to try their best to drag him through the mud and bury him with it.

Exactly.
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
17846 posts
Posted on 3/29/24 at 3:09 pm to
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Especially not sitting in your recliner looking back at 2020 and judging the actions of others at the time. My question for you is, at the time did YOU follow the advice of the so-called experts? I did. IF you did, how can you then fault someone else for doing the same.

I don't know how to post it more clearly. It's not hindsight for all of us.

And no, I did not follow the advice of the so-called experts.
Posted by Boodis Man
Member since Sep 2020
4485 posts
Posted on 3/29/24 at 3:23 pm to
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"Due to a dramatic change in circumstances


Do those circumstances have anything to do with a certain foreign country that has a special place in his heart?
Posted by RollTide71
Member since Dec 2023
1764 posts
Posted on 3/29/24 at 3:26 pm to
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I don't know how to post it more clearly. It's not hindsight for all of us.
Then you should be able to point me to your posts in 2020 that say the same things you are saying now.

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And no, I did not follow the advice of the so-called experts.
So you didn't wear a mask, stay 6 feet apart, limit leaving your home? Interesting. Forgive me if I don't believe you...
Posted by FLTech
the A
Member since Sep 2017
12259 posts
Posted on 3/29/24 at 3:27 pm to
Like who? I mean there were what 16,17, 18 candidates?

Who would you had like to seen up there on the stage?? Lemme guess.. Ron Paul?
This post was edited on 3/29/24 at 3:29 pm
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
17846 posts
Posted on 3/29/24 at 3:51 pm to
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Then you should be able to point me to your posts in 2020 that say the same things you are saying now.

Okay - this is from March of 2020.

First, "shelter in place" is a pipe dream fantasized about by political leaders and government agencies/officials that get off on believing they should be in control of EVERYTHING. Unless we're willing to shoot violators of the Martial Law, the notion of quarantining 330 million people not used to life in North Korea is a joke.

Second, the scientists behind the scary models are beginning to walk their projections back. There won't be 2 million Americans dying from this virus. Anybody that believed that in the first place needs to get their head right.

Third, even if all the doomsday was realistic/gonna happen, has anybody answered (or even asked) this question? - - - what's the mortality rate over, say, a 3-year period for the people that are dying from Coronavirus? My guess is that the mortality rate over that timeframe for an 83 yo with COPD and congestive heart failure was pretty high before the Chinese gave us the virus. So what are we gaining by inviting the next depression, really?

Fourth, ask the 83 yos with COPD and congestive heart failure if living an extra 8 months is worth tipping their kids/grandkids' world into serious and protracted economic collapse. Don't forget, these are the very people progressives have passed assisted suicide laws for.

Finally, liberals bitching about the idea that someone would consider the economy when "lives are on the line" are breathtakingly naive. We make economic decisions in light of that type of risk every single day, and we've been doing it since the beginning of time. If we fought heart disease like we are this virus, the National Guard would be shelling every McDonald's in the country before nightfall.


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So you didn't wear a mask, stay 6 feet apart, limit leaving your home? Interesting. Forgive me if I don't believe you..

It's instructive that you believe the CDC enough to follow its bogus guidelines on a fabricated "threat" but have a problem believing me saying I didn't do those things.
Posted by RollTide71
Member since Dec 2023
1764 posts
Posted on 3/29/24 at 3:53 pm to
I want the link(s) where I can see that you posted said information and the dates. Anybody can copy and paste.
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
17846 posts
Posted on 3/29/24 at 3:55 pm to
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I want the link(s) where I can see that you posted said information and the dates. Anybody can copy and paste.

lmao - here you go. You should have been this skeptical of your government overlords in 2020.

LINK

Posted by RollTide71
Member since Dec 2023
1764 posts
Posted on 3/29/24 at 3:59 pm to
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lmao
If you laughed your A off, there wouldn't be anything left of you...

Ok. You did post that. Even a blind squirrel gets a nut from time to time. And the sun shines on a dogs arse from time to time as well.

I certainly was skeptical, however I chose to err on the side of safety.

By the way, desantis lost. You should have been as skeptical of his ability to win...
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
17846 posts
Posted on 3/29/24 at 4:02 pm to
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Ok. You did post that. Even a blind squirrel gets a nut from time to time. And the sun shines on a dogs arse from time to time as well.

And some people are just adults that have been aware of their surroundings for a few decades.

And some are not.

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I certainly was skeptical, however I chose to err on the side of safety.

You were duped. The Left thanks you.

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By the way, desantis lost. You should have been as skeptical of his ability to win...

First, DeSantis has nothing to do with you being a stooge for the Left.

Second, why would RDS's likelihood of winning influence whether or not I support him in a primary? Do you feel your vote against Obama was a failure on your part because he won?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260056 posts
Posted on 3/29/24 at 4:04 pm to
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Especially not sitting in your recliner looking back at 2020 and judging the actions of others at the time.



I judged them then. We knew they were stupid.



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In a rare moment of bipartisan agreement, lawmakers united early in the COVID-19 pandemic to help states prepare for a national election.

The $2.2 trillion Coronavirus Aid, Relief, and Economic Security Act — aka the CARES Act — included direct payments to most Americans, unemployment aid, business loans and $400 million for elections — including money for the expected increase in people voting by mail.


Posted by TackySweater
Member since Dec 2020
11768 posts
Posted on 3/29/24 at 4:07 pm to
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The last thing I'd want to do is live with giving someone covid and killing them because I was too arrogant to listen to the experts.

Posted by arronrx
Pass Christian
Member since Jun 2008
82 posts
Posted on 3/29/24 at 4:54 pm to
“Change in circumstances “
Does this mean that they have negotiated a deal for NH to be VP?
Posted by RollTide71
Member since Dec 2023
1764 posts
Posted on 3/29/24 at 4:59 pm to
Some people are adults. You're not one of them. The left thanks and you cry. Works for me.
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