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Posted on 8/8/25 at 10:21 pm to SquatchDawg
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The reports are pretty clear that they knew
I literally quoted them earlier ITT. They don't state the conclusions with anything close to this certainty.
Amplifying the subjectivity and opinion-based decision making is the role of Obama as the head executive.
What body tells him he has to modify his subjective evaluation and opinion to their subjective evaluation and opinion? It's his exclusive power. That decision may not even be reviewable.
Posted on 8/8/25 at 10:23 pm to SquatchDawg
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But his position that there’s no evidence that they knew the information regarding Trump’s collusion was false…
Slightly bad wording
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despite their own texts, emails, notes and other intel assessments
Which of these do we have from Obama as of this post?
His assessment is all that matters.
Posted on 8/8/25 at 10:24 pm to SlowFlowPro
Assessment.
You mean his direction to create the results he wanted.
You mean his direction to create the results he wanted.
Posted on 8/8/25 at 10:24 pm to jimmy the leg
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It is the SAME man giving orders.
And very different legal standards.
And very different political scenarios.
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In BOTH instances, the committed crimes
My point proven
This Russiagate stuff has a LONG way to go to be determined to be a crime.
Posted on 8/8/25 at 10:25 pm to Vacherie Saint
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Obama didn’t do anything wrong!
You can’t prove Obama did anything wrong!
Obama may have done something wrong, but you can’t prosecute him!
Obama clearly did something wrong, but you can’t prosecute anyone because of immunity cooties!
Try again
Posted on 8/8/25 at 10:27 pm to Jbird
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Assessment.
You mean his direction to create the results he wanted.
Even given your framing, what prevents the President from doing this in his role as executive?
Isn't telling agencies to craft assessments and policy to get the results he desires literally his role as the executive of the US?
That's his job.
Posted on 8/8/25 at 10:28 pm to SlowFlowPro
Lol beautiful man just fricking beautiful.
Could he have crafted something concerning oh say yellow cake?
Could he have crafted something concerning oh say yellow cake?
Posted on 8/8/25 at 10:31 pm to Jbird
Did anyone In the Bush admin get prosecuted for that fiasco based on a President crafting his own policy in the face of assessments that were revealed to be more credible in hindsight?
That was a much bigger and impactful policy decision, too.
Great example.
That was a much bigger and impactful policy decision, too.
Great example.
Posted on 8/8/25 at 10:32 pm to SlowFlowPro
Lol a predicate for war.
You crack me up.
You crack me up.
Posted on 8/8/25 at 10:33 pm to Jbird
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Lol a predicate for war.
Why I said it's a bigger example
Who was prosecuted?
Posted on 8/8/25 at 10:35 pm to SlowFlowPro
Lol cling to it.
Posted on 8/8/25 at 10:39 pm to Jbird
AI told me nobody was prosecuted for it.
Or are you taking the DEM position they should have?
Or are you taking the DEM position they should have?
Posted on 8/8/25 at 10:45 pm to SlowFlowPro
AI told you.
Do you have any facts that the president directed agencies to gin up a bullshite report?
Do you have any facts that the president directed agencies to gin up a bullshite report?
Posted on 8/8/25 at 10:47 pm to Jbird
I phrased it better for you
Did a President craft his own policy in the face of assessments that were revealed to be more credible in hindsight?
Yes
Did a President craft his own policy in the face of assessments that were revealed to be more credible in hindsight?
Yes
Posted on 8/8/25 at 10:49 pm to SlowFlowPro
Lol Barack directed them to create the results he wanted regardless of facts
Cling to it.
Cling to it.
Posted on 8/8/25 at 10:59 pm to Jbird
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directed them to create the results
Did he?
This post was edited on 8/8/25 at 11:00 pm
Posted on 8/8/25 at 11:00 pm to Meursault
Sure looks like it.
Why the PDB was shite canned.
Why the PDB was shite canned.
Posted on 8/9/25 at 6:59 am to SlowFlowPro
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This Russiagate stuff has a LONG way to go to be determined to be a crime.
Their actions, in conjunction with a foreign government, are noted. Sedition may not be the proper criminal determination.
I believe that what we currently know paints this as the worst instance of political interference in our nations history.
Yet, you act as though every outgoing administration has worked with a foreign government’s to undermine (overthrow?) their duly elected opposition.
Since you seem to think that this is the norm, I would like to see you give a detailed response illustrating when this occurred previously.
I believe that we are in uncharted territory. You don’t.
Elaborate as to why…and show your work.
Posted on 8/9/25 at 7:04 am to SlowFlowPro
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Did anyone In the Bush admin get prosecuted for that fiasco based on a President crafting his own policy in the face of assessments that were revealed to be more credible in hindsight? That was a much bigger and impactful policy decision, too.
Wait, so you are saying that Bush’s decision to invade was worse than the actions of President OJ and his band of traitorous shitbags?
This post was edited on 8/9/25 at 7:05 am
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