re: New York Times gems on the Arbery case.

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Neither of us knows Georgia's caselaw, but perhaps Travis' knowledge is brought back closer to this incident because he recognized Arbery from a previous incident.

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either way travis has no immediate knowledge of a felony, he was informed and recruited by his father after seeing AA running down the street. nothing you say changes the fact their own words admit they had no knowledge of a felony when initiating their CA.

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Also if you want to sound like someone who knows what they're talking about, and that's why you're so confident you can type the things you type, at least use the proper terminology. It's not "direct knowledge", it's immediate knowledge.

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you seem to acknowledge understanding of my point, no need to huff and puff about word choice. go ahead and imagine i say within his presence or within immediate knowledge. either way regardless of the synonyms I used the mcmichaels did not satisfy this portion required.

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- You argued that even if we agree that the McMichaels met the criteria to begin a citizen's arrest, that in and of itself doesn't mean that they followed the law throughout the entire citizen's arrest process. That deviating from the law could/likely would change them from citizen's attempting a lawful citizen's arrest to criminals committing some form of assault.

- I operated under that assumption, and said that the "Stop or I'll blow your brains out" remark might have been aimed at Arbery reaching into his waistband while running from the McMichaels. In that scenario, however unlikely it might be, it wouldn't be a threat for someone to stop running or they'll be shot, it would be a warning not to draw a weapon or they'll be shot.

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right. I know you are just fabricating hypothetical defenses despite the fact that the defense is not even claiming that scenario. This was their statement about making that threat:

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"I said stop," Gregory McMichael said, according to the transcript. "I'll blow your f**king head off, or something. I was trying to convey to this guy we were not playing, you know."

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they have never claimed to be fearful he was reaching for weapons to attack them during the chase. they were trying to intimidate him into compliance with deadly weapons. none of them have claimed they believed he was reaching for anything. that is you fabricating hypotheticals.