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re: Navy officer applies to become the first ever woman to join the elite SEALs

Posted on 7/23/17 at 10:49 pm to
Posted by Sid in Lakeshore
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Posted on 7/23/17 at 10:49 pm to
She could join SEAL team 17.........
Posted by Argonaut
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 7/23/17 at 10:53 pm to
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The primary reason that when men and women work in close quarters together it causes discipline, morale and cohesion problems %100 of the time.


This argument is certainly better than "but women are weaker sometimes."

I'll at least give credit for that.

I still don't care. "Men are weak" isn't a good argument.
Posted by northshorebamaman
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Posted on 7/23/17 at 10:54 pm to
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You have to read it all, then put it together. Or don't. I don't care if you get it.

This shtick wore out a few pages ago. At this point it's clear you have no argument. It's also clear that you attempted to bolster your position by alluding to military service. Something you have been underwhelming, to put it nicely, in showing any knowledge of.
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Posted on 7/23/17 at 10:55 pm to
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Men are weak" isn't a good argument.
You can call it weak if you want. But if that's the case you'll have to call women weak as well because they like to frick just as much, if not more, than men. It would be more accurate just to call it human nature and come to the realization that you can't change that no matter how much you want to.
This post was edited on 7/23/17 at 10:56 pm
Posted by Argonaut
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Posted on 7/23/17 at 10:57 pm to
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showing any knowledge of


Don't be a bitch because your lame gotcha fell on its face.
Posted by northshorebamaman
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Posted on 7/23/17 at 10:57 pm to
Your other go-to when cornered. Insults.
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Posted on 7/23/17 at 10:58 pm to
Once again, make your argument. You haven't done so yet.
Posted by Argonaut
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Posted on 7/23/17 at 10:59 pm to
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You can call it weak if you want. But if that's the case you'll have to call women weak as well because they like to frick just as much, if not more, than men.


Absolutely. People are weak. I haven't suggested otherwise.

quote:

It would be more accurate just to call it human nature and come to the realization that you can't change that no matter how much you want to.


I have no need to change it. Don't pretend this is something new.
Posted by northshorebamaman
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Posted on 7/23/17 at 10:59 pm to
She has no argument. She just wants the last word.
Posted by Argonaut
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Posted on 7/23/17 at 11:00 pm to
You've called me a liar several times. I feel OK calling you out.
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Posted on 7/23/17 at 11:00 pm to
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I have no need to change it.


If you expect co-ed ground combat units, or any type of unit really, to be as effective as an all male unit, then yes, you do.
Posted by Argonaut
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 7/23/17 at 11:01 pm to
I've made my argument. Like I said, you might even be able to find it somewhere.
Posted by northshorebamaman
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Posted on 7/23/17 at 11:01 pm to
That's because you are a liar. If you don't like that about yourself than change it.
Posted by Argonaut
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Posted on 7/23/17 at 11:02 pm to
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If you expect co-ed ground combat units, or any type of unit really, to be as effective as an all male unit, then yes, you do.


Women are already serving in these units.
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Posted on 7/23/17 at 11:03 pm to
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I've made my argument.
Can you link that argument? And please don't link a DOD press release saying that the decision has been made. None of that means the decision is the correct one. I want you to tell me why you think it is.
Posted by Argonaut
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 7/23/17 at 11:03 pm to
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That's because you are a liar. If you don't like that about yourself than change it.


Cool, and you're a bitch. If you don't like that about yourself, *then change it.
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Posted on 7/23/17 at 11:04 pm to
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Women are already serving in these units.


Exactly
Posted by northshorebamaman
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38344 posts
Posted on 7/23/17 at 11:05 pm to
You are ugly when you're angry.
Posted by Argonaut
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 7/23/17 at 11:05 pm to
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Can you link that argument? And please don't link a DOD press release saying that the decision has been made. None of that means the decision is the correct one. I want you to tell me why you think it is.


I'll just restate it.

If women can pass the same standards to do the job, they should do the job. Chest beating over specific jobs isn't important to me, and it isn't an argument.
Posted by Argonaut
Member since Nov 2015
2059 posts
Posted on 7/23/17 at 11:07 pm to
You started this little tangent. Sorry if I hurt your feelings. I'll be nicer from now on.
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