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re: Nate Silver, most outcomes show republicans retain house

Posted on 11/5/18 at 8:17 pm to
Posted by Old Hellen Yeller
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 11/5/18 at 8:17 pm to
quote:

And 7 days ago he had it 86% democrat!


His latest update still has it at 86%.

...not that you would understand any of it
This post was edited on 11/5/18 at 8:18 pm
Posted by scrooster
Resident Ethicist
Member since Jul 2012
43823 posts
Posted on 11/5/18 at 8:17 pm to
Tomorrow may be epic. When I get home from the polling station tomorrow afternoon I am going to settle down with a bottle of Blanton's and a couple of Cubanos and enjoy the rest of the evening.

Either way, it's going to be fun.

May smoke some Tangerine Dream around midnight or so if it's called for.
Posted by foshizzle
Washington DC metro
Member since Mar 2008
40599 posts
Posted on 11/5/18 at 8:19 pm to
quote:

Nate Silver, most outcomes show republicans retain house



quote:

He’s stating he has no clue


It's either one or the other. Mind picking one?
Posted by beaverfever
Arkansas
Member since Jan 2008
36189 posts
Posted on 11/5/18 at 8:24 pm to
He’s basically saying the obvious which is that predicting the house is very hard because there are a shite load of tight races. That doesn’t really jive with the fact that his model says there’s an 85% likelihood that the Dems take the house.
Posted by Little Trump
Florida
Member since Nov 2017
5817 posts
Posted on 11/5/18 at 8:25 pm to
quote:

by beaverfever
He’s basically saying the obvious which is that predicting the house is very hard because there are a shite load of tight races. That doesn’t really jive with the fact that his model says there’s an 85% likelihood that the Dems take the house.



So does that make Silver full of shite?
Posted by Little Trump
Florida
Member since Nov 2017
5817 posts
Posted on 11/5/18 at 8:26 pm to
This backpedaling is getting funny
Posted by Antonio Moss
The South
Member since Mar 2006
49403 posts
Posted on 11/5/18 at 8:27 pm to
quote:

He hasn’t been close about calling anything in years


He was the closest poll analyst in the 2016 election
Posted by Antonio Moss
The South
Member since Mar 2006
49403 posts
Posted on 11/5/18 at 8:30 pm to
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So they have a 4 in 5 shot of winning but most of the scenarios don’t have them winning the house?


I'm assuming he means that the shear number of outcomes (like all of the .001% chance outcomes) break around the +23 D mark but that when you account for likelihood, the Dems have a 4 in 5 chance of gaining a majority. He has a long article from yesterday on this. The snippet posted here is just that.
Posted by MisslePig
Member since Jul 2018
1174 posts
Posted on 11/5/18 at 8:44 pm to
Thank you Antonio Moss, that’s CLEARLY what he’s stating. Not all outcomes are equally likely.

Also to Staaaaanix, link me ANYTHING that shows the Rs have a chance and I’ll debunk it’s inacuracies or help you understand your misinterpretation.

I’m all for a Red Wave but there’s ZERO evidence pointing to the Rs holding the house.
Posted by Strannix
C.S.A.
Member since Dec 2012
53720 posts
Posted on 11/5/18 at 8:46 pm to
Silver said he has no clue if the polls are accurate, based on the last fe years what possibly makes you think they are?

Why are you melting so hard?
Posted by Antonio Moss
The South
Member since Mar 2006
49403 posts
Posted on 11/5/18 at 8:46 pm to
quote:

Also to Staaaaanix, link me ANYTHING that shows the Rs have a chance and I’ll debunk it’s inacuracies or help you understand your misinterpretation.


Um, Nate Silver’s models which you just referenced display around a 20% chance that GOP retains the House.
Posted by MisslePig
Member since Jul 2018
1174 posts
Posted on 11/5/18 at 8:51 pm to
I mentioned polls AND historic trends. Nothing is adding up to them having a legitimate chance.

You GOT ME, there’s a “chance” but it’s not a good one.
Posted by cwill
Member since Jan 2005
54755 posts
Posted on 11/5/18 at 8:53 pm to
Stupid, honest people!
Posted by Strannix
C.S.A.
Member since Dec 2012
53720 posts
Posted on 11/5/18 at 8:58 pm to
quote:

I mentioned polls AND historic trends. Nothing is adding up to them having a legitimate chance.

You GOT ME, there’s a “chance” but it’s not a good one.


Melt
Posted by junkfunky
Member since Jan 2011
36324 posts
Posted on 11/5/18 at 9:02 pm to
quote:

His latest update still has it at 86%.

...not that you would understand any of it





How does that jive with...

quote:

"The range of outcomes in the House is really wide," he explained. "Our range, which covers 80 percent of outcomes goes from, on the low end, about 15 Democratic pickups, all the way to low to mid 50s, 52 or 53."

"Most of those are under 23, which is how many seats they would need to win to take the House," he said."


?

Sounds like he's hedging or just full of shite.
Posted by Strannix
C.S.A.
Member since Dec 2012
53720 posts
Posted on 11/5/18 at 9:03 pm to
He’s in full retreat mode after propagandizing for months
Posted by MisslePig
Member since Jul 2018
1174 posts
Posted on 11/5/18 at 9:14 pm to
quote:

How does that jive with...

It’s quite simple, some outcomes are more likely than others. Just because there are more possible combinations/outcomes doesn’t mean they’re all equal. Some outcomes are highly probable, some are not.
quote:

Melt

You’ve yet to contribute anything to this discussion other than “hahaha” and “melt”.

You’ve clearly demonstrated your lack of understanding with respects to general statistical knowledge and how little information you know in general about this topic.

Don’t troll harder, troll smarter...if you can.
Posted by 70806
Member since Nov 2018
86 posts
Posted on 11/5/18 at 9:18 pm to
It seems that some people here slept thru statistics class.
Posted by Strannix
C.S.A.
Member since Dec 2012
53720 posts
Posted on 11/5/18 at 9:18 pm to
You’re the only one in the thread that made a clearly asinine statement showing a fundamental misinterpretation of the article, so spare us your intellectual superiority spiel.

Posted by MisslePig
Member since Jul 2018
1174 posts
Posted on 11/5/18 at 9:23 pm to


Bwahahahahahahaha

Enjoy tomorrow! I’ll be here keeping an eye out for you.
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