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Move over Anon WB Soy Boy & Swampy Bill Taylor- LTC Vindman is now the Star Witness
Posted on 11/12/19 at 8:51 am
Posted on 11/12/19 at 8:51 am
Good piece by Jim Hanson explaining why the triggered concern troll has taken the lead and inside the head of a mid-level Deep Stater swamp critter.
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Federalist-Alex Vindman Is Living, Breathing Proof That The Deep State Exists, And It Is Corrupt
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Vindman’s Testimony Gives the Game Away
They began with a “whistleblower,” but it was quickly shown that this person was nowhere near any of the events in question and likely colluded with Democrats prior to even filing the complaint. They needed a better front man, and Vindman was perfect: a military officer with a Purple Heart and privy to all the requisite details as the Ukraine desk lead for the National Security Council. Who would dare impugn his honor?
But Vindman gave the game away with his prepared testimony. He believes the permanent bureaucracy should reign supreme, and if some elected politician gets crosswise with the solons of the state, then they must act. So he did, as he detailed in his prepared statement and testimony to Congress. From the statement: “In the Spring of 2019, I became aware of outside influencers promoting a false narrative of Ukraine inconsistent with the consensus views of the interagency. This narrative was harmful to U.S. government policy.”
There is a lot of wrong in those two sentences, which profoundly illustrate the fundamental flaw Vindman and his fellow Deep Staters operate under. The interagency he mentions is a collection of staff from the major agencies like the State Department, Department of Defense, and intelligence agencies, who meet to coordinate and plan implementation of policy. They most certainly are not supposed to decide what policy the United States will follow. That is 100 percent the purview of the president.
Dissenters Within Government Will Be Persecuted
As for “outside influencers,” Vindman is primarily speaking of Rudy Giuliani, who was acting in some ways as a private citizen, but also as an emissary of President Trump. During his testimony, Vindman was asked who else he meant as “outside,” and he named U.S. Ambassador to the European Union Gordon Sonland and U.S. Special Representative for Ukraine Negotiations Kurt Volker.
This is telling, as Giuliani may somewhat fairly be called an outsider, even though he was acting at the president’s behest, but both Sonland and Volker are members of the government with direct responsibility for Ukraine and are significantly senior to Vindman. Yet Vindman called them “outsiders,” saying Volker as special representative for Ukraine was fine when he “was working in concert with the interagency,” but when in contact with Giuliani “that was not the case”; and that Sonland was “a bit of an outside influencer.”
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Vindman also took action warning Ukrainian officials he spoke to: “I would tell them to not interfere — not get involved in U.S. domestic politics.”
This was after Vindman says he had determined the calls for an investigation into election interference and anything related to Burisma corruption and the Bidens equaled President Trump trying to get Ukraine to interfere in U.S. politics. He was actively undermining what he believes is the president’s chosen policy—not because it is illegal, but because he disagrees with it and doesn’t think it is important.
That is far beyond Vindman’s duties or authority, and in applying his opinion and actions to counter the president’s goals he was violating the oath he swore to obey the orders of “officers appointed above me.”
This is insubordination and malfeasance, and likely punishable under several sections of the Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ).
Federalist-Alex Vindman Is Living, Breathing Proof That The Deep State Exists, And It Is Corrupt
Posted on 11/12/19 at 9:01 am to PhDoogan
Didn't Vindman already say he wasn't directly on the call? Or am I confusing him with another sham witness?
Posted on 11/12/19 at 9:02 am to PhDoogan
The problem with this article is that it is based on the facts and logic. I completely ignores the “feels”of the situation and thus will not be covered by the MSM.
Posted on 11/12/19 at 9:03 am to PhDoogan
I’m 100% serious and he should be strung up next to Brennan.
Posted on 11/12/19 at 9:06 am to PhDoogan
He should be given a dishonorable discharge immediately if not sooner.
Posted on 11/12/19 at 9:09 am to Barneyrb
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He should be given a dishonorable discharge immediately if not sooner.
Indeed. The instances of subordinates abroad witnessing him talk shite about the US with foreign colleagues alone warrants dishonorable discharge, IMO.
But nevermind that...
So if the angle is #MuhBelieveAllMilitary with this fool, then why wasn't Gen. Flynn given the same latitude?
Posted on 11/12/19 at 9:16 am to PhDoogan
Posted on 11/12/19 at 9:31 am to udtiger
Yup, that was a good article as well. So we no longer have a WB. Swampy Bill's admission that he was not on the call, has never spoken to Trump, developed the belief of the purpose of the call from the NY Times, and fourth hand account of the dreaded QPQ pretty much makes him useless as a witness.
So it pretty much comes down to Vindman who essentially corroborates the transcript. And as these two articles point out, there should be plenty of material for Ratcliffe and Jordan to tear into.
So it pretty much comes down to Vindman who essentially corroborates the transcript. And as these two articles point out, there should be plenty of material for Ratcliffe and Jordan to tear into.
Posted on 11/12/19 at 11:26 am to PhDoogan
This is one more example of some people refusing to accept the fact that Donald Trump was elected president. Not HRC not Vindman or any other bureaucrat.
They are willing to lie, assume the worst as fact, or anything their screwed up minds can concoct to hold or gain power.
Hunter Biden holding this high paying job that he clearly was unqualified for raises questions. If Joe was as honest as he claims he would welcome a transparent investigation to clear up his reputation. Instead they want Trump impeached for suggesting it be looked into.
These people have no shame and are comfortable knowing they play by a different set of rules.
They are willing to lie, assume the worst as fact, or anything their screwed up minds can concoct to hold or gain power.
Hunter Biden holding this high paying job that he clearly was unqualified for raises questions. If Joe was as honest as he claims he would welcome a transparent investigation to clear up his reputation. Instead they want Trump impeached for suggesting it be looked into.
These people have no shame and are comfortable knowing they play by a different set of rules.
This post was edited on 11/12/19 at 11:53 am
Posted on 11/12/19 at 11:27 am to VoxDawg
quote:Vindman was on the call
VoxDawg
Posted on 11/12/19 at 11:36 am to PanhandleTigah
Nvm
This post was edited on 11/12/19 at 11:42 am
Posted on 11/12/19 at 11:51 am to PanhandleTigah
Vindman’s issue with the call was not that there was anything illegal going on. As a fact he is the best possible witness that the transcript is basically accurate. Nothing on the call indicates an impeachable offense.
Vindman issue was that Trump was changing policy which is the presidents right. Vindman feels that he and the interagency group had the knowledge and right to make the correct decisions in America’s interests.
No one elected Vindman.
Vindman issue was that Trump was changing policy which is the presidents right. Vindman feels that he and the interagency group had the knowledge and right to make the correct decisions in America’s interests.
No one elected Vindman.
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